Um, Bruce, I am NOT ill-advised. The ONLY way to get the saturation out of
the laminate........

Skippy's idea of spraying the bottom with fresh water is just plain
ludicrous and ignorant. You've got to view the hull that sits in the water
as a membrane. Anybody knows a membrane won't work as a membrane if it is
impermeable.

Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text -

Youre close my esteamed friend. the point skip so demurely suggested
is the fluid that weeps to the surface as the hull "drys" must be
washed off with soap n water. Unless that fluid is removed the
"drying" process stops. Or so says a few people.



bob

"Bob" wrote in message
...

Um, Bruce, I am NOT ill-advised. The ONLY way to get the saturation out
of
the laminate........

Skippy's idea of spraying the bottom with fresh water is just plain
ludicrous and ignorant. You've got to view the hull that sits in the
water
as a membrane. Anybody knows a membrane won't work as a membrane if it is
impermeable.

Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text -

Youre close my esteamed friend. the point skip so demurely suggested
is the fluid that weeps to the surface as the hull "drys" must be
washed off with soap n water. Unless that fluid is removed the
"drying" process stops. Or so says a few people.


Skippy is an idiot when it comes to anything that logical thinking must
address.

He hasn't a clue what osmosis means respecting a membrane. The fluid that
pushes out the blisters increases in volume because of osmosis. Part of that
fluid consists of water. That fluid is hydrophilic. If the water is removed
the fluid becomes a sticky solid. Only when water is allowed to get to it
does it become thin and 'watery' even though the color is usually quite
dark.

Evaporate all the water from this dark fluid and it becomes like tar. Then
put on a barrier coat on BOTH sides of the membrane - hull and the tar-like
residue will not be able to increase in volume and become thinner and it's
ability via osmosis to raise blisters is thwarted.

Spray ground out blisters all you want with water and it doesn't do one
thing to evaporate the water from the other osmotic fluid in the layup in
unblistered areas. How some people can be so myopic and unimaginative is
beyond understanding.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

Skippy is an idiot when it comes to anything that logical thinking must
address.


Wilbur Hubbard


Ahh, Wilbur...

Never one to admit a mistake, are you?

He hasn't a clue what osmosis means respecting a membrane. The fluid that
pushes out the blisters increases in volume because of osmosis. Part of
that fluid consists of water. That fluid is hydrophilic. If the water is
removed the fluid becomes a sticky solid. Only when water is allowed to
get to it does it become thin and 'watery' even though the color is
usually quite dark.


I believe I have a firm grasp on the concept of what is happening in blister
formation.

Evaporate all the water from this dark fluid and it becomes like tar. Then
put on a barrier coat on BOTH sides of the membrane - hull and the
tar-like residue will not be able to increase in volume and become thinner
and it's ability via osmosis to raise blisters is thwarted.


What you, in your refusal to release the grasp you have on your position,
overlook, is that if you don't get the stuff attracting the water OUT, it
will still be there, hidden below the surface - thus the high reading on the
moisture meter.

Spray ground out blisters all you want with water and it doesn't do one
thing to evaporate the water from the other osmotic fluid in the layup in
unblistered areas. How some people can be so myopic and unimaginative is
beyond understanding.


I'm not going to be spraying blisters which have been ground out - I'm going
to be spraying the entire hull.

So, LET the water get to it, to get it in solution, and to the surface,
where there's no obstruction (membrane to push against), and then wash it
off. Rinse, repeat, until you're satisfied.

I promised not to be a pedant, before, but do yourself a favor and look up
Pascoe Surveyors, for just one take on the subject. There's pictures to go
along with the proofs provided there. I'm going to be out of the loop for a
week starting tomorrow.

A much more detailed rebuttal would be my normal response, but your lignum
vitae skull doesn't warrant it :{))

L8R

Skip

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