Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

even you Brit ******s will understand how
no boat with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with

I've rarely been one to think in terms of stereotypes, but your post
smacks of being a typical American braggart .. "mine's
bigger/faster/better than yours" ....

You seem, as well, somewhat akin to a fool.

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Paul - xxx

"Paul - xxx" wrote in message
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I've rarely been one to think in terms of stereotypes, but your post
smacks of being a typical American braggart .. "mine's
bigger/faster/better than yours" ....


There's bragging and there's stating the facts. Those whom the facts might
offend tend to think in terms of braggadocio as a defense mechanism. I guess
I can't blame them because the alternative is to admit that their boats are
very slow because they chose diesel/large propeller over efficiency under
sail.


Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Paul - xxx" wrote in message
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I've rarely been one to think in terms of stereotypes, but your post
smacks of being a typical American braggart .. "mine's
bigger/faster/better than yours" ....


There's bragging and there's stating the facts. Those whom the facts
might offend tend to think in terms of braggadocio as a defense
mechanism. I guess I can't blame them because the alternative is to
admit that their boats are very slow because they chose diesel/large
propeller over efficiency under sail.

Who are 'they'?

It would appear to me that you're bragging that your boat is faster
than something with a different configuration, which just seems like an
empty boast with no real substance.

Stating facts would preclude using emotive words like 'Brit ******s'.

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Paul - xxx

"Paul - xxx" wrote in message
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Paul - xxx" wrote in message
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I've rarely been one to think in terms of stereotypes, but your post
smacks of being a typical American braggart .. "mine's
bigger/faster/better than yours" ....


There's bragging and there's stating the facts. Those whom the facts
might offend tend to think in terms of braggadocio as a defense
mechanism. I guess I can't blame them because the alternative is to
admit that their boats are very slow because they chose diesel/large
propeller over efficiency under sail.

Who are 'they'?

It would appear to me that you're bragging that your boat is faster
than something with a different configuration, which just seems like an
empty boast with no real substance.

Stating facts would preclude using emotive words like 'Brit ******s'.



'Emotive' is not the right word. 'Redundant' might be more apropos. Just
kidding. Where's your sense of humor? Brits call each other ******s and I'm
just trying to fit in and not sound like a 'yank.'

Who's they? They are the people who call their motorsailers sailboats. I
maintain that any boat with sails that contains a large, heavy diesel and
large, often three-bladed propeller is a *******ization of a sailboat while
those who operate these 'compromise boats' suffer having to put up with the
worst of both worlds. For years I've been telling people that they are no
sailor if their boats smell of diesel fuel. What better way to demonstrate
that fact than pointing out how slow these motorsailers are compared to a
real sailboat?

I'm a purist. So shoot me.


Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Paul - xxx" wrote in message
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Paul - xxx" wrote in message
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I've rarely been one to think in terms of stereotypes, but your post
smacks of being a typical American braggart .. "mine's
bigger/faster/better than yours" ....

There's bragging and there's stating the facts. Those whom the facts
might offend tend to think in terms of braggadocio as a defense
mechanism. I guess I can't blame them because the alternative is to
admit that their boats are very slow because they chose diesel/large
propeller over efficiency under sail.
Who are 'they'?

It would appear to me that you're bragging that your boat is faster
than something with a different configuration, which just seems like an
empty boast with no real substance.

Stating facts would preclude using emotive words like 'Brit ******s'.



'Emotive' is not the right word. 'Redundant' might be more apropos. Just
kidding. Where's your sense of humor? Brits call each other ******s and I'm
just trying to fit in and not sound like a 'yank.'

Who's they? They are the people who call their motorsailers sailboats. I
maintain that any boat with sails that contains a large, heavy diesel and
large, often three-bladed propeller is a *******ization of a sailboat while
those who operate these 'compromise boats' suffer having to put up with the
worst of both worlds. For years I've been telling people that they are no
sailor if their boats smell of diesel fuel. What better way to demonstrate
that fact than pointing out how slow these motorsailers are compared to a
real sailboat?

I'm a purist. So shoot me.


BANG!


Wilbur Hubbard

So what's your PRF rating?




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Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
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So what's your PRF rating?



Looks like it's 234


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronado_Yachts

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
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So what's your PRF rating?



Looks like it's 234


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronado_Yachts



Sounds right.

Mine is 216.

http://www.sailors.com/sfbay/racing/phrf-sf.html

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Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

maintain that any boat with sails that contains a large, heavy diesel and
large, often three-bladed propeller is a *******ization of a sailboat

What about folding props then, Mr Wilbur "Pug-ugly Boat Owner" Hubbard ?

So shoot me.

Right, right, O my brother...

Boo

"Boo" wrote in message
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maintain that any boat with sails that contains a large, heavy diesel and
large, often three-bladed propeller is a *******ization of a sailboat

What about folding props then, Mr Wilbur "Pug-ugly Boat Owner" Hubbard ?



Folding and feathering props are a blatant admission of the folly of
dragging a fixed prop on a sailboat. I think they are ludicrous as they
still remain a half-assed measure. Either you have a sailboat or you have a
motorboat. If you are content with having a motorboat with a big diesel and
fixed prop then stop trying to claim you are a sailor. It just ain't gonna
happen!


Wilbur Hubbard