"Boo" wrote in message
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Man, that's an ugly boat !




Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


Wilbur Hubbard

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.



What happened to your Swan 62? Looks like it shrunk a bit!

L8R

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"Believe me, my young friend, there is *nothing*-absolutely nothing-half so
much worth doing as simply messing, messing-about-in-boats; messing about in
boats-or *with* boats.

In or out of 'em, it doesn't matter. Nothing seems really to matter, that's
the charm of it.

Whether you get away, or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your
destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never get
anywhere at all, you're always busy, and you never do anything in
particular; and when you've done it there's always something else to do, and
you can do it if you like, but you'd much better not."

"Flying Pig" wrote in message
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.



What happened to your Swan 62? Looks like it shrunk a bit!


LOL!

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.

That's exactly the format we used (Worst Marine's best ablative) when we did
Flying Pig.

It's lasted nearly 4 years; the reveal coat (did half in blue, half in
black) is showing in most places other than the waterline, but it certainly
did the job on a long-term basis.

New bottom job coming up this spring when we return to the states for the
wedding...

L8R

Skip


--
Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog
and/or http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog

"Believe me, my young friend, there is *nothing*-absolutely nothing-half so
much worth doing as simply messing, messing-about-in-boats; messing about in
boats-or *with* boats.

In or out of 'em, it doesn't matter. Nothing seems really to matter, that's
the charm of it.

Whether you get away, or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your
destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never get
anywhere at all, you're always busy, and you never do anything in
particular; and when you've done it there's always something else to do, and
you can do it if you like, but you'd much better not."

"Flying Pig" wrote in message
...
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.

That's exactly the format we used (Worst Marine's best ablative) when we
did Flying Pig.

It's lasted nearly 4 years; the reveal coat (did half in blue, half in
black) is showing in most places other than the waterline, but it
certainly did the job on a long-term basis.

New bottom job coming up this spring when we return to the states for the
wedding...


My preference is the hard epoxy-based Trinidad because I can scrub and scrub
it with a scrub brush and it doesn't come off but slowly. I got almost ten
years out of my last bottom job with Trinidad so if I get the same out of
this one I won't have any complaints. My boat's small enough that I can get
the bottom scrubbed squeaky clean in only a couple hours using a scrub brush
and snorkel and fins.

I feel that since haul-outs are rather expensive and quite disruptive of the
daily routine doing as few as possible makes sense. Thus the many layers of
paint. When it gets down to the brown barrier coat then I know it's time for
another bottom job. The brown barrier coat was necessary as I used to use
Tri-Lux (tributyl tin) which is now banned and no longer available and it
used some sort of carrier paint that Trinidad would raise and bubble and not
adhere to. The barrier coat is compatible with the Tri-Lux and the Trinidad.
It sure was less work than scraping off all the Tri-Lux.

There's a good yard in Key Largo that let's you live aboard and do your own
work. Very laid back and reasonable prices. If you remember where the
Mandalay is when you anchored there in the Harbor near Rodriguez Key, it's
just to the north of it. The only hitch for you would be the requirement to
go in at high tide with local knowledge as the channel into the yard has
shoaled so with six-feet of draft the only time you can get in and out is at
high tide.


Wilbur Hubbard

On Dec 14, 12:31*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.

Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475

After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no boat
with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the Mustard'..
You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging through the
water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat configuration. I
sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975, Dufour 30 - the one with
the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I put her hull down in an hour
under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on a reach. And the Dufour is
supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the photos
of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!

Wilbur Hubbard

That's an ugly little cheap looking day sailor Neal. And whats with
the clunky heavy dink? That thing is half as big as cut the cheese.

Here is the new bottom paint picture you are obsessed over.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/203...63212926pHGwrs

Had over 18,000 people look at RedClouds pictures there and almost
20,000 hits on You tube.
Could you post a link to the purple interior and plastic clocks again?
Also it looks like you cheap plastic ports are crazing. You can do a
port fix on par to your boom repair and use saran wrap.

I will post some pictures of the Why Me bottom job soon, I'm going to
pull her out soon.
Have to re-calk all the teak decks too. Going to replace the counter
tops in the galley and both heads, mount the LED TV and install a
larger water heater. Also have to tune up the twin 327's hard to get
her faster than 30kts now. Biggest problem is getting rid of 300
gallons of gasoline thats to old to use. Any suggestions?

Joe

On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 06:29:37 -0800 (PST), Joe
wrote:

Biggest problem is getting rid of 300
gallons of gasoline thats to old to use. Any suggestions?

Advertise it on Craig's list, might have value to someone.

Also have to tune up the twin 327's hard to get
her faster than 30kts now. Biggest problem is getting rid of 300
gallons of gasoline thats to old to use. Any suggestions?

Joe

Go down to your local oil recycling place, get some empty barrels in
the back of your pickup, come along side and siphon the fuel to the
barrels. Take em back to the recycler.
Gordon

"Joe" wrote in message
...
On Dec 14, 12:31 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.

Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475

After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat
with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the Mustard'.
You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging through the
water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat configuration. I
sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975, Dufour 30 - the one
with
the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I put her hull down in an
hour
under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on a reach. And the Dufour is
supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the photos
of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!

Wilbur Hubbard

:: That's an ugly little cheap looking day sailor Neal. And whats with
:: the clunky heavy dink? That thing is half as big as cut the cheese.

I guess for a weenie-armed individual such as yourself a 45-pound dinghy
might well appear clunky and heavy. But, for us real sailormen it's a simple
task to pull it out of the water and flop it upside-down on the custom
carrier made from stainless steel tubing.


:: Here is the new bottom paint picture you are obsessed over.
:: http://sports.webshots.com/photo/203...63212926pHGwrs


Seems like I recally you posted that about five or seven years ago
originally. I was wanting to see something a wee bit more current than that.
But, I suppose you'd have to get together a deep-sea diving expedition to
bet photos of Red Cloud's current bottom.


:: Had over 18,000 people look at RedClouds pictures there and almost
:: 20,000 hits on You tube.


Everybody likes a sob story these days. . . Tales of woe, operations of
ineptitude. They all identify with other hapless incompetents, it seems.


:: Could you post a link to the purple interior and plastic clocks again?
:: Also it looks like you cheap plastic ports are crazing. You can do a
:: port fix on par to your boom repair and use saran wrap.


That would be very easy to do as I don't have to mount a deep-sea diving
operation to snap such photos. LOL! You are right about the dead lights. The
original plastic is badly crazed but what you don't see is the 3/16" Lexan I
installed on the inside beneath the frames. Sort of like what you see in an
airplane cabin.


:: I will post some pictures of the Why Me bottom job soon, I'm going to
:: pull her out soon.
:: Have to re-calk all the teak decks too. Going to replace the counter
:: tops in the galley and both heads, mount the LED TV and install a
:: larger water heater. Also have to tune up the twin 327's hard to get
:: her faster than 30kts now. Biggest problem is getting rid of 300
:: gallons of gasoline thats to old to use. Any suggestions?


Good grief don't tell me you now have a wooden motor boat. Will you never
learn. (Poor bloke goes from rust to rot. ROFLOL.)


Wilbur Hubbard

On Dec 15, 11:04*am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

...
On Dec 14, 12:31 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:





I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.

Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475

After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat
with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the Mustard'.
You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging through the
water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat configuration. I
sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975, Dufour 30 - the one
with
the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I put her hull down in an
hour
under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on a reach. And the Dufour is
supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the photos
of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!

Wilbur Hubbard

:: That's an ugly little cheap looking day sailor Neal. And whats with
:: the clunky heavy dink? That thing is half as big as cut the cheese.

I guess for a weenie-armed individual such as yourself a 45-pound dinghy
might well appear clunky and heavy. But, for us real sailormen it's a simple
task to pull it out of the water and flop it upside-down on the custom
carrier made from stainless steel tubing.

:: Here is the new bottom paint picture you are obsessed over.
:: *http://sports.webshots.com/photo/203...63212926pHGwrs

Seems like I recally you posted that about five or seven years ago
originally. I was wanting to see something a wee bit more current than that.
But, I suppose you'd have to get together a deep-sea diving expedition to
bet photos of Red Cloud's current bottom.

:: Had over 18,000 people look at RedClouds pictures there and almost
:: 20,000 hits on You tube.

Everybody likes a sob story these days. . . *Tales of woe, operations of
ineptitude. They all identify with other hapless incompetents, it seems.

:: Could you post a link to the purple interior and plastic clocks again?
:: Also it looks like you cheap plastic ports are crazing. You can do a
:: port fix on par to your boom repair and use saran wrap.

That would be very easy to do as I don't have to mount a deep-sea diving
operation to snap such photos. LOL! You are right about the dead lights. The
original plastic is badly crazed but what you don't see is the 3/16" Lexan I
installed on the inside beneath the frames. Sort of like what you see in an
airplane cabin.

:: I will post some pictures of the Why Me bottom job soon, I'm going to
:: pull her out soon.
:: Have to re-calk all the teak decks too. Going to replace the counter
:: tops in the galley and both heads, mount the LED TV and install a
:: larger water heater. Also have to tune up the twin 327's hard to get
:: her faster than 30kts now. Biggest problem is getting rid of 300
:: gallons of gasoline thats to old to use. Any suggestions?

Good grief don't tell me you now have a wooden motor boat. Will you never
learn. (Poor bloke goes from rust to rot. ROFLOL.)

Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text -

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No kidding, but it's a sweet live aboard 1969 Owens Aruba.
Even has the Princess oven with roto attachments.

I told you about it, remember when Ron posted about the forward hatch
on his Owens, and then he told everyone about your rusty Toyota and
the screaming fights heard across the bay all the time coming from
your yellow boat and some Cuban girl? You have a very short selective
memory.

The Aruba is laid out nice:
http://www.owensmarqueclub.com/galleryaruba.htm

And here is Donna Reed showing off the princess oven. Just how
American is that?
http://www.owensmarqueclub.com/image...005_ad_450.jpg

It's just an tempory boat until I get the next coffee boat, but I will
have fun with her and take care of her until then..

Have any pictures of your boat ever going
anywhere?......ever.....serious.... ...

Joe