"Boo" wrote in message
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Man, that's an ugly boat !




Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


Wilbur Hubbard

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied
three gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on
the high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats
everywhere else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the
Mustard'. You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging
through the water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat
configuration. I sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975,
Dufour 30 - the one with the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I
put her hull down in an hour under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on
a reach. And the Dufour is supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the
photos of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


For what it's worth, I envy you your new blue.


Thanks, it's pretty dark blue now. The longer it gets exposed to the
elements it seems to become somewhat lighter. It's got a very high copper
load of close to 80% so the blue ends up less than bright.

I'm looking forward to getting a new bottom job on Temptress.

But blue? Or Copper?


White topsides? If so either one would look just fine. Copper will probably
end up looking green which would look just fine.


Wilbur Hubbard

Also have to tune up the twin 327's hard to get
her faster than 30kts now. Biggest problem is getting rid of 300
gallons of gasoline thats to old to use. Any suggestions?

Joe

Go down to your local oil recycling place, get some empty barrels in
the back of your pickup, come along side and siphon the fuel to the
barrels. Take em back to the recycler.
Gordon

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 13:31:24 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475

=====

Looks like the keel could use some filling and fairing. That would
help your windward performance quite a bit.

Has their been a major repair made to the starboard top sides forward
of the beam?




Good eyes. The keel, being cast iron suffers from some pitting. I could fair
it with epoxy but then I look at pictures of whale appendages and see
barnacles and stuff growing there and it doesn't seem to slow them down very
much so I don't worry about it on a cruiser that seems to have no problems
reaching hull speed in moderate winds. She goes to weather surprisingly well
for a shoal draft boat. It's the modified Schell keel design that's got a
decent lift/drag ratio considering the short span.

No major repair on the starboard topsides. What you are probably seeing is
the effects of the two-part, closed-cell, urethane foam I poured in between
the component and the hull. The component is the inner hull piece that is
molded to the hull for strength and contains stringers, vertical surfaces
for the furniture, lockers, sole, etc. That foam is tricky stuff. It goes
off fast and expands about fifteen times in volume. Before I got the right
knack of pouring it in very small batches in the enclosed spaces after
hole-sawing about a two-inch hole in the horizontal surfaces to access the
closed spaces between hull and component, I poured a little too much at a
time and it had a tendency to somewhat bulge the larger, unsupported by
stringer spaces on the hull. But, the trade-off is a positive flotation
yacht.


Wilbur Hubbard

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied
three gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on
the high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats
everywhere else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the
Mustard'. You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging
through the water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat
configuration. I sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975,
Dufour 30 - the one with the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I
put her hull down in an hour under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on
a reach. And the Dufour is supposed to be a fast boat.



So you ran five miles ahead of the Dufor - in an hour?

Sounds like the Dufor was anchored.


In all honesty, he did come out of the harbor about a half hour later than I
did. So he was halfway hull down to begin with.


Wilbur Hubbard

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
snip

So what's your PRF rating?



Looks like it's 234


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronado_Yachts

"Joe" wrote in message
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On Dec 14, 12:31 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.

Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475

After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat
with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the Mustard'.
You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging through the
water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat configuration. I
sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975, Dufour 30 - the one
with
the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I put her hull down in an
hour
under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on a reach. And the Dufour is
supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the photos
of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!

Wilbur Hubbard

:: That's an ugly little cheap looking day sailor Neal. And whats with
:: the clunky heavy dink? That thing is half as big as cut the cheese.

I guess for a weenie-armed individual such as yourself a 45-pound dinghy
might well appear clunky and heavy. But, for us real sailormen it's a simple
task to pull it out of the water and flop it upside-down on the custom
carrier made from stainless steel tubing.


:: Here is the new bottom paint picture you are obsessed over.
:: http://sports.webshots.com/photo/203...63212926pHGwrs


Seems like I recally you posted that about five or seven years ago
originally. I was wanting to see something a wee bit more current than that.
But, I suppose you'd have to get together a deep-sea diving expedition to
bet photos of Red Cloud's current bottom.


:: Had over 18,000 people look at RedClouds pictures there and almost
:: 20,000 hits on You tube.


Everybody likes a sob story these days. . . Tales of woe, operations of
ineptitude. They all identify with other hapless incompetents, it seems.


:: Could you post a link to the purple interior and plastic clocks again?
:: Also it looks like you cheap plastic ports are crazing. You can do a
:: port fix on par to your boom repair and use saran wrap.


That would be very easy to do as I don't have to mount a deep-sea diving
operation to snap such photos. LOL! You are right about the dead lights. The
original plastic is badly crazed but what you don't see is the 3/16" Lexan I
installed on the inside beneath the frames. Sort of like what you see in an
airplane cabin.


:: I will post some pictures of the Why Me bottom job soon, I'm going to
:: pull her out soon.
:: Have to re-calk all the teak decks too. Going to replace the counter
:: tops in the galley and both heads, mount the LED TV and install a
:: larger water heater. Also have to tune up the twin 327's hard to get
:: her faster than 30kts now. Biggest problem is getting rid of 300
:: gallons of gasoline thats to old to use. Any suggestions?


Good grief don't tell me you now have a wooden motor boat. Will you never
learn. (Poor bloke goes from rust to rot. ROFLOL.)


Wilbur Hubbard

"Joe" wrote in message
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snip
:: Biggest problem is getting rid of 300
:: gallons of gasoline thats to old to use. Any suggestions?



That should be no problem at all. Get an auxiliary tank big enough to get
you out to international waters than dump the old gasoline. It will
evaporate fast.

I looked at my required, waste disposal placard and it says that outside 25
miles the only thing illegal to dump is plastic so you should be legal.
Hell, ships empty their oily bilges and ballast water out there all the
time.


Wilbur Hubbard

"WaIIy" wrote in message
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Is it necessary to cross-post your silly post?


Yes, it's necessary in order to expose it to the largest possible audience
who might be interested in on-topic postings.

Cross-posting to related groups is not considered bad netiquette.


Wilbur Hubbard

On Dec 15, 11:04*am, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

...
On Dec 14, 12:31 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:





I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.

Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475

After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat
with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the Mustard'.
You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging through the
water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat configuration. I
sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975, Dufour 30 - the one
with
the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I put her hull down in an
hour
under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on a reach. And the Dufour is
supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the photos
of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!

Wilbur Hubbard

:: That's an ugly little cheap looking day sailor Neal. And whats with
:: the clunky heavy dink? That thing is half as big as cut the cheese.

I guess for a weenie-armed individual such as yourself a 45-pound dinghy
might well appear clunky and heavy. But, for us real sailormen it's a simple
task to pull it out of the water and flop it upside-down on the custom
carrier made from stainless steel tubing.

:: Here is the new bottom paint picture you are obsessed over.
:: *http://sports.webshots.com/photo/203...63212926pHGwrs

Seems like I recally you posted that about five or seven years ago
originally. I was wanting to see something a wee bit more current than that.
But, I suppose you'd have to get together a deep-sea diving expedition to
bet photos of Red Cloud's current bottom.

:: Had over 18,000 people look at RedClouds pictures there and almost
:: 20,000 hits on You tube.

Everybody likes a sob story these days. . . *Tales of woe, operations of
ineptitude. They all identify with other hapless incompetents, it seems.

:: Could you post a link to the purple interior and plastic clocks again?
:: Also it looks like you cheap plastic ports are crazing. You can do a
:: port fix on par to your boom repair and use saran wrap.

That would be very easy to do as I don't have to mount a deep-sea diving
operation to snap such photos. LOL! You are right about the dead lights. The
original plastic is badly crazed but what you don't see is the 3/16" Lexan I
installed on the inside beneath the frames. Sort of like what you see in an
airplane cabin.

:: I will post some pictures of the Why Me bottom job soon, I'm going to
:: pull her out soon.
:: Have to re-calk all the teak decks too. Going to replace the counter
:: tops in the galley and both heads, mount the LED TV and install a
:: larger water heater. Also have to tune up the twin 327's hard to get
:: her faster than 30kts now. Biggest problem is getting rid of 300
:: gallons of gasoline thats to old to use. Any suggestions?

Good grief don't tell me you now have a wooden motor boat. Will you never
learn. (Poor bloke goes from rust to rot. ROFLOL.)

Wilbur Hubbard- Hide quoted text -

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No kidding, but it's a sweet live aboard 1969 Owens Aruba.
Even has the Princess oven with roto attachments.

I told you about it, remember when Ron posted about the forward hatch
on his Owens, and then he told everyone about your rusty Toyota and
the screaming fights heard across the bay all the time coming from
your yellow boat and some Cuban girl? You have a very short selective
memory.

The Aruba is laid out nice:
http://www.owensmarqueclub.com/galleryaruba.htm

And here is Donna Reed showing off the princess oven. Just how
American is that?
http://www.owensmarqueclub.com/image...005_ad_450.jpg

It's just an tempory boat until I get the next coffee boat, but I will
have fun with her and take care of her until then..

Have any pictures of your boat ever going
anywhere?......ever.....serious.... ...

Joe