maintain that any boat with sails that contains a large, heavy diesel and
large, often three-bladed propeller is a *******ization of a sailboat

What about folding props then, Mr Wilbur "Pug-ugly Boat Owner" Hubbard ?

So shoot me.

Right, right, O my brother...

Boo

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
snip
So what's your PRF rating?



Looks like it's 234


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronado_Yachts



Sounds right.

Mine is 216.

http://www.sailors.com/sfbay/racing/phrf-sf.html

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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied
three gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on
the high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats
everywhere else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the
Mustard'. You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging
through the water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat
configuration. I sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975,
Dufour 30 - the one with the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I
put her hull down in an hour under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on
a reach. And the Dufour is supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the
photos of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard

For what it's worth, I envy you your new blue.


Thanks, it's pretty dark blue now. The longer it gets exposed to the
elements it seems to become somewhat lighter. It's got a very high copper
load of close to 80% so the blue ends up less than bright.

I'm looking forward to getting a new bottom job on Temptress.

But blue? Or Copper?


White topsides? If so either one would look just fine. Copper will probably
end up looking green which would look just fine.


Wilbur Hubbard




Uhm, no, actually I was referring to Copperpoxy.

http://www.svguenevere.com/2007/cp/
But it seems to be off the market now...



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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no boat
with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the Mustard'.
You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging through the
water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat configuration. I
sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975, Dufour 30 - the one with
the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I put her hull down in an hour
under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on a reach. And the Dufour is
supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the photos
of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard
-----------

Looks good Wilburrrrr!
Mine is currently a habitat for all manner of marine life. Got to get to the
yard!

"Boo" wrote in message
...
maintain that any boat with sails that contains a large, heavy diesel and
large, often three-bladed propeller is a *******ization of a sailboat

What about folding props then, Mr Wilbur "Pug-ugly Boat Owner" Hubbard ?



Folding and feathering props are a blatant admission of the folly of
dragging a fixed prop on a sailboat. I think they are ludicrous as they
still remain a half-assed measure. Either you have a sailboat or you have a
motorboat. If you are content with having a motorboat with a big diesel and
fixed prop then stop trying to claim you are a sailor. It just ain't gonna
happen!


Wilbur Hubbard

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied
three gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on
the high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats
everywhere else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast
underwater design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the
Mustard'. You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging
through the water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat
configuration. I sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975,
Dufour 30 - the one with the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I
put her hull down in an hour under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind
on a reach. And the Dufour is supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the
photos of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard

For what it's worth, I envy you your new blue.


Thanks, it's pretty dark blue now. The longer it gets exposed to the
elements it seems to become somewhat lighter. It's got a very high copper
load of close to 80% so the blue ends up less than bright.

I'm looking forward to getting a new bottom job on Temptress.

But blue? Or Copper?


White topsides? If so either one would look just fine. Copper will
probably end up looking green which would look just fine.


Wilbur Hubbard


Uhm, no, actually I was referring to Copperpoxy.

http://www.svguenevere.com/2007/cp/
But it seems to be off the market now...



It might be marketed as Coppercoat nowadays...

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...int-32580.html

mixed reviews


Wilbur Hubbard

"MMC" wrote in message
g.com...


"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat
with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the Mustard'.
You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging through the
water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat configuration. I
sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975, Dufour 30 - the one
with
the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I put her hull down in an
hour
under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on a reach. And the Dufour is
supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the photos
of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard
-----------

Looks good Wilburrrrr!
Mine is currently a habitat for all manner of marine life. Got to get to
the yard!





Mine was beginning to get that way after ten years scrubbing. Much of the
paint was gone or very thin. While I don't mind doing a monthly scrubbing to
keep the slime off when the water is warm, I refuse to get in 50 degree
water to keep things under control. Also in the last year the barnacles were
starting to adhere along with some types of crusty coral growth. I hate
scraping barnacles and crusty stuff. It wears me out having to hold my
breath again and again and again. It was time - high time. Now it should be
good for years and years with just a light scrubbing from time to time.

Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied
three gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on
the high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats
everywhere else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast
underwater design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the
Mustard'. You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging
through the water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat
configuration. I sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975,
Dufour 30 - the one with the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I
put her hull down in an hour under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind
on a reach. And the Dufour is supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the
photos of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard
For what it's worth, I envy you your new blue.

Thanks, it's pretty dark blue now. The longer it gets exposed to the
elements it seems to become somewhat lighter. It's got a very high copper
load of close to 80% so the blue ends up less than bright.

I'm looking forward to getting a new bottom job on Temptress.

But blue? Or Copper?

White topsides? If so either one would look just fine. Copper will
probably end up looking green which would look just fine.


Wilbur Hubbard

Uhm, no, actually I was referring to Copperpoxy.

http://www.svguenevere.com/2007/cp/
But it seems to be off the market now...



It might be marketed as Coppercoat nowadays...

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...int-32580.html

mixed reviews


Wilbur Hubbard




Horrid web site - good epoxy....

http://www.epoxyproducts.com/



--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied
three gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on
the high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats
everywhere else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast
underwater design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the
Mustard'. You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging
through the water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat
configuration. I sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975,
Dufour 30 - the one with the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I
put her hull down in an hour under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind
on a reach. And the Dufour is supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the
photos of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard
For what it's worth, I envy you your new blue.

Thanks, it's pretty dark blue now. The longer it gets exposed to the
elements it seems to become somewhat lighter. It's got a very high copper
load of close to 80% so the blue ends up less than bright.

I'm looking forward to getting a new bottom job on Temptress.

But blue? Or Copper?

White topsides? If so either one would look just fine. Copper will
probably end up looking green which would look just fine.


Wilbur Hubbard

Uhm, no, actually I was referring to Copperpoxy.

http://www.svguenevere.com/2007/cp/
But it seems to be off the market now...



It might be marketed as Coppercoat nowadays...

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...int-32580.html

mixed reviews


Wilbur Hubbard




My marina quoted $980 for haul, skuff sanding, blue anti-foul rolled on,
and drop her back in the water.


--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 18:48:15 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

I hate
scraping barnacles and crusty stuff. It wears me out having to hold my
breath again and again and again.

You need a Hookah rig. You can build your own for $600 or so, useful
for other things also.

http://www.sailsarana.com/projects.php#hookha

I use one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001VO1Z8/

but amazon seems to be out of stock at the moment. Any small oil-free
compressor will work.