"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied
three gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on
the high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats
everywhere else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the
Mustard'. You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging
through the water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat
configuration. I sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975,
Dufour 30 - the one with the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I
put her hull down in an hour under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on
a reach. And the Dufour is supposed to be a fast boat.



So you ran five miles ahead of the Dufor - in an hour?

Sounds like the Dufor was anchored.


In all honesty, he did come out of the harbor about a half hour later than I
did. So he was halfway hull down to begin with.


Wilbur Hubbard

On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 13:31:24 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475

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Looks like the keel could use some filling and fairing. That would
help your windward performance quite a bit.

Has their been a major repair made to the starboard top sides forward
of the beam?

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 13:31:24 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475

=====

Looks like the keel could use some filling and fairing. That would
help your windward performance quite a bit.

Has their been a major repair made to the starboard top sides forward
of the beam?




Good eyes. The keel, being cast iron suffers from some pitting. I could fair
it with epoxy but then I look at pictures of whale appendages and see
barnacles and stuff growing there and it doesn't seem to slow them down very
much so I don't worry about it on a cruiser that seems to have no problems
reaching hull speed in moderate winds. She goes to weather surprisingly well
for a shoal draft boat. It's the modified Schell keel design that's got a
decent lift/drag ratio considering the short span.

No major repair on the starboard topsides. What you are probably seeing is
the effects of the two-part, closed-cell, urethane foam I poured in between
the component and the hull. The component is the inner hull piece that is
molded to the hull for strength and contains stringers, vertical surfaces
for the furniture, lockers, sole, etc. That foam is tricky stuff. It goes
off fast and expands about fifteen times in volume. Before I got the right
knack of pouring it in very small batches in the enclosed spaces after
hole-sawing about a two-inch hole in the horizontal surfaces to access the
closed spaces between hull and component, I poured a little too much at a
time and it had a tendency to somewhat bulge the larger, unsupported by
stringer spaces on the hull. But, the trade-off is a positive flotation
yacht.


Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied three
gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on the
high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats everywhere
else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no boat
with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the Mustard'.
You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging through the
water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat configuration. I
sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975, Dufour 30 - the one with
the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I put her hull down in an hour
under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on a reach. And the Dufour is
supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the photos
of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard




For what it's worth, I envy you your new blue.

I'm looking forward to getting a new bottom job on Temptress.

But blue? Or Copper?

--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied
three gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on
the high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats
everywhere else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the
Mustard'. You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging
through the water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat
configuration. I sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975,
Dufour 30 - the one with the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I
put her hull down in an hour under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on
a reach. And the Dufour is supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the
photos of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


For what it's worth, I envy you your new blue.


Thanks, it's pretty dark blue now. The longer it gets exposed to the
elements it seems to become somewhat lighter. It's got a very high copper
load of close to 80% so the blue ends up less than bright.

I'm looking forward to getting a new bottom job on Temptress.

But blue? Or Copper?


White topsides? If so either one would look just fine. Copper will probably
end up looking green which would look just fine.


Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied
three gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on
the high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats
everywhere else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast underwater
design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the
Mustard'. You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging
through the water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat
configuration. I sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975,
Dufour 30 - the one with the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I
put her hull down in an hour under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind on
a reach. And the Dufour is supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the
photos of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard

For what it's worth, I envy you your new blue.


Thanks, it's pretty dark blue now. The longer it gets exposed to the
elements it seems to become somewhat lighter. It's got a very high copper
load of close to 80% so the blue ends up less than bright.

I'm looking forward to getting a new bottom job on Temptress.

But blue? Or Copper?


White topsides? If so either one would look just fine. Copper will probably
end up looking green which would look just fine.


Wilbur Hubbard




Uhm, no, actually I was referring to Copperpoxy.

http://www.svguenevere.com/2007/cp/
But it seems to be off the market now...



--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied
three gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on
the high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats
everywhere else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast
underwater design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the
Mustard'. You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging
through the water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat
configuration. I sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975,
Dufour 30 - the one with the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I
put her hull down in an hour under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind
on a reach. And the Dufour is supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the
photos of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard

For what it's worth, I envy you your new blue.


Thanks, it's pretty dark blue now. The longer it gets exposed to the
elements it seems to become somewhat lighter. It's got a very high copper
load of close to 80% so the blue ends up less than bright.

I'm looking forward to getting a new bottom job on Temptress.

But blue? Or Copper?


White topsides? If so either one would look just fine. Copper will
probably end up looking green which would look just fine.


Wilbur Hubbard


Uhm, no, actually I was referring to Copperpoxy.

http://www.svguenevere.com/2007/cp/
But it seems to be off the market now...



It might be marketed as Coppercoat nowadays...

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...int-32580.html

mixed reviews


Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied
three gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on
the high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats
everywhere else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast
underwater design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the
Mustard'. You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging
through the water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat
configuration. I sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975,
Dufour 30 - the one with the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I
put her hull down in an hour under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind
on a reach. And the Dufour is supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the
photos of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard
For what it's worth, I envy you your new blue.

Thanks, it's pretty dark blue now. The longer it gets exposed to the
elements it seems to become somewhat lighter. It's got a very high copper
load of close to 80% so the blue ends up less than bright.

I'm looking forward to getting a new bottom job on Temptress.

But blue? Or Copper?

White topsides? If so either one would look just fine. Copper will
probably end up looking green which would look just fine.


Wilbur Hubbard

Uhm, no, actually I was referring to Copperpoxy.

http://www.svguenevere.com/2007/cp/
But it seems to be off the market now...



It might be marketed as Coppercoat nowadays...

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...int-32580.html

mixed reviews


Wilbur Hubbard




Horrid web site - good epoxy....

http://www.epoxyproducts.com/



--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
I had my fine, blue water sailing yacht hauled last week and applied
three gallons on Trinidad Pro bottom paint. It amounts to six coats on
the high-wear areas along the LWL, rudder and keel and four coats
everywhere else.


Here are a few photos that show the very clean and ultra-fast
underwater design.


http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238469

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238471

http://www.badongo.com/pic/11238475


After viewing the photos, even you Brit ******s will understand how no
boat with a similar LWL (23-feet) can expect to keep up with 'Cut the
Mustard'. You lazy sailors with your big diesels and big props dragging
through the water lack a knot or two compared to my real sailboat
configuration. I sailed back to my mooring in the company of a 1975,
Dufour 30 - the one with the five-foot draft and racy bulb keel - and I
put her hull down in an hour under working sail in 12-15 knots of wind
on a reach. And the Dufour is supposed to be a fast boat.

P.S. A special note to Capt. Joe of "Red Cloud" infamy. Where's the
photos of "Red Cloud's" new bottom paint? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard
For what it's worth, I envy you your new blue.

Thanks, it's pretty dark blue now. The longer it gets exposed to the
elements it seems to become somewhat lighter. It's got a very high copper
load of close to 80% so the blue ends up less than bright.

I'm looking forward to getting a new bottom job on Temptress.

But blue? Or Copper?

White topsides? If so either one would look just fine. Copper will
probably end up looking green which would look just fine.


Wilbur Hubbard

Uhm, no, actually I was referring to Copperpoxy.

http://www.svguenevere.com/2007/cp/
But it seems to be off the market now...



It might be marketed as Coppercoat nowadays...

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...int-32580.html

mixed reviews


Wilbur Hubbard




My marina quoted $980 for haul, skuff sanding, blue anti-foul rolled on,
and drop her back in the water.


--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

'Cut the Mustard'.

Man, that's an ugly boat !

Boo2