On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 21:45:35 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

On Oct 17, 5:46*pm, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 16:23:11 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

National Safety Council that
approximately 90% of all accidents were preventable - the other 10%
were acts of God.
Cheers,
Bruce

So what does, Acts of God mean exactly? That only God created the
situation and therefore nobody is responsible?

It is just a term, used in many legal documents, that indicates that
the event was inexplicable. It is an "an act of God", for example, if
a sudden storm arises and blows your barn down.

Yes, I understand the definition. However Ive started to question that
archaic phrase.

If s storm arises and blows my barn I say bad on the farmer for not
maintaing a structurally sound barn. Did every other barn in that area
do the same? Probabbly not

I'll give you a concrete example: In 1936 or 7 my father bought some
forested acreage outside our home town with the idea of cutting some
of the timber to finance the building of a house. Along came the Great
New England Hurricane, in 1938, and blew all the trees down and as
blown down forests were all over New England the timber became nearly
worthless... so a very small house :-)

Now, this hurricane was the first major hurricane to strike the area
since 1869 and is most powerful, costliest and deadliest hurricane in
New England history.

What do you call this?



You are driving down the road and a deer jumps out in front of you and
you wreck your car avoiding it?

Absolutly, I lived in a region of PNW where deer were as think as rats
and birds. They beded down in my side yard. I lived 4 blocks from down
in a city with population of 15000. I drove the interstate for 18
years and EVER hit a deer, saw lots, had several near misses, and knew
many other who hit deer. Why did I avoid hitting an Act of Deer God ?
I predected deer occurance and took required steps to avoid hitting
them. Nothing super natural just plane conservative and knowledgable
practices.


Rather then ask a lot of irrational questions you might try googleing
the term. The Wiki has a pretty detailed explanation.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I understand the concept I just dont belive that people have the
luxury of laming stupidy on GOD.
bob
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

In article , Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
I'll give you a concrete example: In 1936 or 7 my father bought some
forested acreage outside our home town with the idea of cutting some
of the timber to finance the building of a house. Along came the Great
New England Hurricane, in 1938, and blew all the trees down and as
blown down forests were all over New England the timber became nearly
worthless... so a very small house :-)

Now, this hurricane was the first major hurricane to strike the area
since 1869 and is most powerful, costliest and deadliest hurricane in
New England history.

What do you call this?

I think you're wasting your time, Bruce. It seems Bob wants someone to
be responsible for everything; Haitian earthquakes, Icelandic volcanos,
Indian ocean tsunamis, it's *all* got to be someone's fault, Bob can't
accept that sometimes **** happens.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 22:08:23 +0100, Justin C
wrote:

In article , Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
I'll give you a concrete example: In 1936 or 7 my father bought some
forested acreage outside our home town with the idea of cutting some
of the timber to finance the building of a house. Along came the Great
New England Hurricane, in 1938, and blew all the trees down and as
blown down forests were all over New England the timber became nearly
worthless... so a very small house :-)

Now, this hurricane was the first major hurricane to strike the area
since 1869 and is most powerful, costliest and deadliest hurricane in
New England history.

What do you call this?

I think you're wasting your time, Bruce. It seems Bob wants someone to
be responsible for everything; Haitian earthquakes, Icelandic volcanos,
Indian ocean tsunamis, it's *all* got to be someone's fault, Bob can't
accept that sometimes **** happens.

Justin.


Yes, I realize that he is somewhat of a zealot but I just can't resist
poking holes in balloons.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

I think you're wasting your time, Bruce. It seems Bob wants someone to
be responsible for everything; Haitian earthquakes, Icelandic volcanos,
Indian ocean tsunamis, it's *all* got to be someone's fault, Bob can't
accept that sometimes **** happens.

* *Justin.

**** does happen all the time but sometimes one fellow simply walks
away thiniking, Humm just another Tuesday. While others runn around
wailing like a another welfare republican hoping to get saved by some
one cause God did it.

In article , Bob wrote:

I think you're wasting your time, Bruce. It seems Bob wants someone to
be responsible for everything; Haitian earthquakes, Icelandic volcanos,
Indian ocean tsunamis, it's *all* got to be someone's fault, Bob can't
accept that sometimes **** happens.

* *Justin.

**** does happen all the time but sometimes one fellow simply walks
away thiniking, Humm just another Tuesday. While others runn around
wailing like a another welfare republican hoping to get saved by some
one cause God did it.

.... or runs around greed obsessed looking whose ass he can sue.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

I'll give you a concrete example: In 1936 or 7 my father bought some
forested acreage outside our home town with the idea of cutting some
of the timber to finance the building of a house. Along came the Great
New England Hurricane, in 1938, and blew all the trees down and as
blown down forests were all over New England the timber became nearly
worthless... so a very small house :-)

Now, this hurricane was the first major hurricane to strike the area
since 1869 and is most powerful, costliest and deadliest hurricane in
New England history.

What do you call this?


Sounds like he put all his eggs in one basket. To bad he " bet the
farm" on one roll of the dice. What was his plan B in case the ****
hit the fan...... as it did in his case?

Another chapter could have been, a fire burnt it all down and the
price of timber went sky high but there was no marketable timber left.
There are several possible takes on that one.

Personally, my relitives left Houlton Maine in the late 1850s and
headed to the Oregon Territory to log and then farm the land. They
seemed to do just fine... humm maybe the PNW was a better deal than
Maine Its all about knowledge and judgment. Observe, predict, take
corrective actions. Learn..... and the world becomes simple.

Ya ever wonder why some people always have all the bad luck... you
know like driving a perfictly good boat on a reer, constant motor
problmes, and a never ending list of system hassels Oh and people
problems?
Bob

On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 00:47:16 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:


I'll give you a concrete example: In 1936 or 7 my father bought some
forested acreage outside our home town with the idea of cutting some
of the timber to finance the building of a house. Along came the Great
New England Hurricane, in 1938, and blew all the trees down and as
blown down forests were all over New England the timber became nearly
worthless... so a very small house :-)

Now, this hurricane was the first major hurricane to strike the area
since 1869 and is most powerful, costliest and deadliest hurricane in
New England history.

What do you call this?


Sounds like he put all his eggs in one basket. To bad he " bet the
farm" on one roll of the dice. What was his plan B in case the ****
hit the fan...... as it did in his case?


Another chapter could have been, a fire burnt it all down and the
price of timber went sky high but there was no marketable timber left.
There are several possible takes on that one.

Personally, my relitives left Houlton Maine in the late 1850s and
headed to the Oregon Territory to log and then farm the land. They
seemed to do just fine... humm maybe the PNW was a better deal than
Maine Its all about knowledge and judgment. Observe, predict, take
corrective actions. Learn..... and the world becomes simple.

Ya ever wonder why some people always have all the bad luck... you
know like driving a perfictly good boat on a reer, constant motor
problmes, and a never ending list of system hassels Oh and people
problems?
Bob


So, your contribution to the discussion about of Acts of God is "don't
put your eggs in one basket" and "my folks moved to Oregon"?

A meaningful response, indeed.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

So, your contribution to the discussion about of Acts of God is "don't
put your eggs in one basket" and "my folks moved to Oregon"?

A meaningful response, indeed.

Cheers,
Bruce

Yup that sums it up. Always have a plan B.... but even more important
Bruce: keep and open mind and always improve yourself.When a person
isnt learning true stuff (best practices based on research/facts) they
are gona keep messing up. Those folks are easy to spot by their
language:
Gaawd damn its a damn shame that happened Bubba.
ya but not much ya can do bout that Bear. **** happens ya kno.
Yup, ya cant go through life trying to be safe and protect ur self
from every thing all the time. hell yald never get nuthin dun Bubba.

Im a bleliver.... 99.99% of injuries and boat crashes/loss are
predictable and preventable.... Hell just look at ole JoE formerly of
the Red Clown and SKip and Lydia. Those two losses were easily
predicted.... and i think they were right here by this wonderful peer
review process we have on RBC.

Time to go get the chickens up.........

bob.

In article , Bob wrote:

So, your contribution to the discussion about of Acts of God is "don't
put your eggs in one basket" and "my folks moved to Oregon"?

A meaningful response, indeed.

Cheers,
Bruce

Yup that sums it up. Always have a plan B.... but even more important
Bruce: keep and open mind and always improve yourself.When a person
isnt learning true stuff (best practices based on research/facts) they
are gona keep messing up. Those folks are easy to spot by their
language:
Gaawd damn its a damn shame that happened Bubba.
ya but not much ya can do bout that Bear. **** happens ya kno.
Yup, ya cant go through life trying to be safe and protect ur self
from every thing all the time. hell yald never get nuthin dun Bubba.

Im a bleliver.... 99.99% of injuries and boat crashes/loss are
predictable and preventable.... Hell just look at ole JoE formerly of
the Red Clown and SKip and Lydia. Those two losses were easily
predicted.... and i think they were right here by this wonderful peer
review process we have on RBC.

Time to go get the chickens up.........

bob.

Then how do you explain those idiots who manage to do OK? There are
people you bump into in life who you just wonder how they manage to put
one foot in front of the other yet they seem to do just fine, they don't
plan and research yet they always do OK. And what about those who plan
and plan, and spend years researching, do all possible to eliminate
possible failure and yet things go catastrophically bad, as an example
take Apollo 13?

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:54:26 +0100, Justin C
wrote:

And what about those who plan
and plan, and spend years researching, do all possible to eliminate
possible failure and yet things go catastrophically bad, as an example
take Apollo 13?

1. Some are just plain lucky (an accident waiting for a place to
happen).

2. Some do a lot of planning but don't fully understand the risks and
issues, and what should be done to mitigate them (mostly a lack of
real world experience).

3. Some, like Appollo 13, were calculated risks that went bad (no one
ever said that the early days of space travel were going to be totally
safe).

4. Some are cock sure arrogant and think it can't happen to them (see
item number 1).