On 11/2/10 2:02 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
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Please tell me..."what cruising really is all about."

We just bought a new boat and we plan to do some cruising, but I sure
wouldn't want to break any of your rules when we do.

So, please list your rules in order of importance.




I shall be delighted to do so:

(rules about what cruising is all about listed in order of importance)


1) Cruising is a planned, uneventful, private and successful voyage from one
venue to another that takes into consideration the vessel, the crew, the
weather, the water, the stuff upon which the water lies and the hard stuff
around the edges of the water.


Agreed, for any sort of boating.


2) Cruising under sail is doing the above without using the motor unless the
wind dies completely.

3) When cruising you should remain as inconspicuous as possible at all
times. This includes while underway and entering and exiting ports of call.
This also includes anchoring. If anybody's head pops out of a nearby
companionway or hatch to see what all the commotion is about as you pass by
or anchor you are doing something wrong.

Not necessarily.



4) The same can be said about when you are getting under way.

Agreed.


5) When you're anchored don't run a portable generator. Don't run your
diesel at all unless there is an emergency and unless you are downwind of
EVERYBODY (diesel fumes go a long way downwind and are sickening and
unhealthy to breathe). Put a strap on that noisy wind generator in an
anchorage. If you need terawatts of electricity then stop being an obnoxious
skinflint with your noisy Honda portables and cheapass wind generators
whooshing and whistling and grinding away. Purchase and install a
water-cooled, inboard diesel generator and use it instead because they are
acceptable quiet but never use it upwind of anybody else.

Fortunately, we have a water-cooled, diesel generator.



6) Idle speed only when using your dinghy. Better yet, get your fat ass in
shape and use a rowing dinghy.

Agreed, especially the latter. I'm in the market for an inflatable dink
that actually will row nicely. Probably aren't any.



7) Leave the barking dogs and crying babies at home.

Leave the dogs at home, drown the crying babies! :)



8) Cruising should be done for its own sake. If you can't enjoy cruising
without conducting a running dialog via the internet or telephone the whole
time, you aren't cruising - you're showing off or trying to show off and
you're making a pain in the ass out of yourself.

Sometimes.



9) Cruisers are self-reliant. Never expect to be rescued. Don't ever call
for a rescue unless you're gonna die without a rescue. And, if you're gonna
die, think twice about calling for a rescue as the fact that you're gonna
die probably means you deserve to die because you've been too stupid to
live.

10) Go cruising. Shut up about it. Don't bother anybody else when you're
cruising.


Wilbur Hubbard



I don't think you'd be a lot of fun on a cruise, Wilbur.

"HarryK" wrote in message
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On 11/2/10 2:02 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
wrote in message
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Please tell me..."what cruising really is all about."

We just bought a new boat and we plan to do some cruising, but I sure
wouldn't want to break any of your rules when we do.

So, please list your rules in order of importance.




I shall be delighted to do so:

(rules about what cruising is all about listed in order of importance)


1) Cruising is a planned, uneventful, private and successful voyage from
one
venue to another that takes into consideration the vessel, the crew, the
weather, the water, the stuff upon which the water lies and the hard
stuff
around the edges of the water.


Agreed, for any sort of boating.


2) Cruising under sail is doing the above without using the motor unless
the
wind dies completely.

3) When cruising you should remain as inconspicuous as possible at all
times. This includes while underway and entering and exiting ports of
call.
This also includes anchoring. If anybody's head pops out of a nearby
companionway or hatch to see what all the commotion is about as you pass
by
or anchor you are doing something wrong.

Not necessarily.



4) The same can be said about when you are getting under way.

Agreed.


5) When you're anchored don't run a portable generator. Don't run your
diesel at all unless there is an emergency and unless you are downwind of
EVERYBODY (diesel fumes go a long way downwind and are sickening and
unhealthy to breathe). Put a strap on that noisy wind generator in an
anchorage. If you need terawatts of electricity then stop being an
obnoxious
skinflint with your noisy Honda portables and cheapass wind generators
whooshing and whistling and grinding away. Purchase and install a
water-cooled, inboard diesel generator and use it instead because they
are
acceptable quiet but never use it upwind of anybody else.

Fortunately, we have a water-cooled, diesel generator.



6) Idle speed only when using your dinghy. Better yet, get your fat ass
in
shape and use a rowing dinghy.

Agreed, especially the latter. I'm in the market for an inflatable dink
that actually will row nicely. Probably aren't any.



7) Leave the barking dogs and crying babies at home.

Leave the dogs at home, drown the crying babies! :)



8) Cruising should be done for its own sake. If you can't enjoy cruising
without conducting a running dialog via the internet or telephone the
whole
time, you aren't cruising - you're showing off or trying to show off and
you're making a pain in the ass out of yourself.

Sometimes.



9) Cruisers are self-reliant. Never expect to be rescued. Don't ever call
for a rescue unless you're gonna die without a rescue. And, if you're
gonna
die, think twice about calling for a rescue as the fact that you're gonna
die probably means you deserve to die because you've been too stupid to
live.

10) Go cruising. Shut up about it. Don't bother anybody else when you're
cruising.


Wilbur Hubbard



I don't think you'd be a lot of fun on a cruise, Wilbur.




If you want fun, go to the circus. Cruising isn't supposed to be 'fun'.
Cruising is a serious challenge that needs to be viewed as a serious
challenge. People are too stupid to consider the fact that their 'fun'
usually results in misery for the next guy.


Wilbur Hubbard

On 11/2/10 3:42 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
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I don't think you'd be a lot of fun on a cruise, Wilbur.




Cruising isn't supposed to be 'fun'.

Wilbur Hubbard



That's just absurd, Wilbur.

"HarryK" wrote in message
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On 11/2/10 3:42 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
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I don't think you'd be a lot of fun on a cruise, Wilbur.




Cruising isn't supposed to be 'fun'.

Wilbur Hubbard



That's just absurd, Wilbur.



Your reply is indicative of the sad state of affairs of sailing these days.
Sailing has become "fun" as its primary attribute. With an attitude like
that, is it any wonder why so many incompetent boobs are out there on the
water causing disaster after disaster, scandal after scandal and folly after
folly?

"Satisfaction" would be a more appropriate word than "fun". Fun has a
connotation of amusement like in an amusement park. Fun lacks seriousness.
Cruising done well provides satisfaction. Cruising done well does not
provide fun. It's too serious a pursuit and too dangerous and needs to be
taken seriously or dire consequences to all concerned might be the result.



Wilbur Hubbard

On 11/2/10 3:52 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
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On 11/2/10 3:42 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
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I don't think you'd be a lot of fun on a cruise, Wilbur.




Cruising isn't supposed to be 'fun'.

Wilbur Hubbard



That's just absurd, Wilbur.



Your reply is indicative of the sad state of affairs of sailing these days.
Sailing has become "fun" as its primary attribute. With an attitude like
that, is it any wonder why so many incompetent boobs are out there on the
water causing disaster after disaster, scandal after scandal and folly after
folly?

"Satisfaction" would be a more appropriate word than "fun". Fun has a
connotation of amusement like in an amusement park. Fun lacks seriousness.
Cruising done well provides satisfaction. Cruising done well does not
provide fun. It's too serious a pursuit and too dangerous and needs to be
taken seriously or dire consequences to all concerned might be the result.



Wilbur Hubbard



Wilbur, whoever you are and whatever you do, you are not qualified to
argue semantics with me. Really. I have a fancy graduate degree in
etymology, and have been a practicing editor and writer for decades.

I know words and how they are used. Most people with sailboats, whether
they cruise as you describe it or race or just putter around do it for
"fun." It can be a sport, which is one of the definitions for fun.

The fact that boating needs to be taken seriously does not minimize its
"fun" value.

I know words and how they are used.

Then what can you say about me using my writing miscues as a
guide.....? Do you see any patterns?

On 11/2/10 9:25 PM, Bob wrote:

I know words and how they are used.

Then what can you say about me using my writing miscues as a
guide.....? Do you see any patterns?




Well, for openers, your speeeeeeling sux.

He said he was a writer, not a psychiatrist :{))

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"Bob" wrote in message
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I know words and how they are used.

Then what can you say about me using my writing miscues as a
guide.....? Do you see any patterns?

"HarryK" wrote in message
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Wilbur, whoever you are and whatever you do, you are not qualified to
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You should have typed 'whomever'

http://www.grammarbook.com/grammar/whoever.asp


argue semantics with me. Really. I have a fancy graduate degree in
etymology, and have been a practicing editor and writer for decades.
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Oh, is that so? So please tell me, Harry, why the unnecessary comma?


I know words and how they are used. Most people with sailboats, whether
they cruise as you describe it or race or just putter around do it for
"fun."

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Why, Harry, did you fail to place a comma where one was needed? Some editor!

It can be a sport, which is one of the definitions for fun.

The fact that boating needs to be taken seriously does not minimize its
"fun" value.


Wrong again, Harry! Taking any pursuit seriously necessarily diminishes its
fun value as serious is the opposite of fun.


Wilbur Hubbard
Ph. D. Journalism

Wrong again, Harry! *Taking any pursuit seriously necessarily diminishes its
fun value as serious is the opposite of fun.

My Dearest Esteemed Colleague:

I can not disagree more forcefully. A professional is a person who has
a mastery compency level. She/he has both the highest level of
performance PLUS a true joy of the task. It is the joy of the task
that propels a person to the highest level of performance HOWEVER,
superior skills (like yourself) is the last step before attaining Self
Actualization... its when you’re in the grove: capable plus joy that
pushes a person to the highest level of performance. Those lacking the
total joy a task brings will never achieve that highest level of
performance. It takes both.

Think of it as fuking…. Could you be a fantastic love and not enjoy
the woman/man you banging? Gotta have both other wise your just a dam
good whore. Which is good. They are professionals too!

Wilbur Hubbard
Ph. D. Journalism (honorarium emeritus)