Greetings...

"Bob" wrote in message
...

Rather than buying 2x $400 things which are lovely to take into the
cockpit,

or not worry about getting wet if you take them ashore,


your language is difficult to understand.
CF-29s et al are bullet proof (sorta) as well as water proof (proven).
If they get dirty just HOZE them off...........

I'm not sure what's difficult to understand. You proposed I buy two
toughbooks to solve a HD problem, then compounded your error by suggesting I
take the HD (in my case, if the problem were what I was experiencing, the HD
would be questionable) out of a dead toughbook, stick it in another, and be
happy when I got the replacement computer, sans the defective drive which
I'd plucked from it, back from Toshiba after its failure.

Suggesting that I'd likely experience a dead toughbook isn't a ringing
endorsement...

Sounds like _your_ language is difficult to reason, if not understand :{))

OTOH, I understand your need to belittle me, and promote your agenda, by
misdirection, as I clearly stated that my problem was in the HD, and that I
had a solution to it.

Oh. I forgot. You just don't read for content, instead for targets. My
mistake. Given that you waded through my extremely long (as usual, I know)
long post solely to find something you could shoot at sorta illustrates my
point...

At least you could be like Wilbur and satirize while you're at it :{))


or their many
shortcomings

What short commings??????

Shortcomings for what I want to do with the computer at my nav station. I
have a 20" LCD display at my nav. Try that on a toughbook. I have a
full-sized, comfort (angled keys so I don't get carpal tunnel) keyboard
which fits my much-larger-than-typical hands, along with a mouse (ya, I know
I can connect a mouse to my toughbook if I had one). Ya, I know, I could
(maybe - don't know iif it has an output) hook up my screen to a TB, and
also my keyboard. But then, why bother having a TB??

FOTM is that I don't know what sort of ports a TB has, but I'd bet a bundle
it doesn't have what my computer does, discussed in the "Ping Larry" thread.
Mine has lots of comms, of which the TB doesn't (betting, here, not having
one in front of me), so that would fit directly into your question, making
the TB very short-comming :{)) - along with lots of other ports, to boot.

Note that I am not against Toughbooks, though, for the bells and
whistles,

Once again your language is equivical............ no bells and
whistles. just rock solid hardware.

I'd consider the ability to toss it or hose it, and have it come up working,
a bell and whistle as compared to others. However, as compared to the
Itronics, the two interesting B/Ws would be the built-in GPS and touch
screen, TBs presumed to also have WiFi. Please take discussions on this
point to my redirected thread on TBs and other extreme duty laptops.

As Ive said before.... most these guys here are 65 year old GEEKS who
have been out of the business for 20 years, and maybe at best sell
some dodads off a crappy boat to take an IRS Schedule C.
Find some one who actually works for a living and look at what they
are using. They aint got time to dick with geeky dreams used to fill
an other wise boring empty life. Stay away from those hobby/loss guy.

Most what guys here? I made reference to only one, who, best I can tell, is
still very active (Larry) - and has NEVER lived on a boat - who, up until
recently, made his entire living servicing electronics down to the component
level.

My vendor sells from his home business, not from a boat, and it definitely
is working for a living for him - which seems to have been productive, as he
recently moved from Birmingham to the beach in FL.

As to working for a living and using something computer-ish in it, the only
likely comparison would be something Roger would design, or larger. I'd bet
they don't have a toughbook at the helm, and quite likely not in the comm
center (radio shack, if you'd prefer).

We do have a laptop aboard, as backup. When (it's rarely been used that way)
it's not being a backup, it's Lydia's computer. Perhaps when it dies, we'd
investigate either a TB or IT - but the screens are notably smaller than
what's on hers.

As an aside, in the wanderings that this thread has taken, we went to a
larger chartplotter, replacing our RL70CRC with a C120. Better than double
the screen size, a product, solely, of our need for something which had a
larger display (old age ain't for sissies), so we didn't have to get our
face in it and squint when things got questionable.

So, while many will do just fine with 5" chartplotter screens, we're not
among them. It is what it is. I can't run a 4 minute mile, do 100 pushups
or 50 chinups, any more, either, but I'm still out here doing it, full
time...

L8R

Skip


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On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 12:07:13 -0400, "Flying Pig"
wrote:

My vendor sells from his home business, not from a boat, and it definitely
is working for a living for him - which seems to have been productive, as he
recently moved from Birmingham to the beach in FL.

I can personally attest to the fact that Skip's PC vendor/builder
provides absolutely first class products and support. He has great
WiFi solutions also.

http://www.islandtimepc.com/

Just a *very* satisfied customer.

That said, the Panasonic Toughbook CF-29 is a darned good boat
computer also.

I'm not sure what's difficult to understand. *You proposed I buy two
toughbooks to solve a HD problem, then compounded your error by suggesting I
take the HD........

Your problme is THAT you have a HD problem!

Buy a computer designed and built robustly and you dont have those
problems. ANd when you do...... flip flop swap and youre plugged in
and running again in 20 seconds. Maybe Lydia wouldnt have scuttled
your boat whil you were sleeping on watch.... oh ya she was too so I
guess a functing chart ploter would serve no purpose.


Shortcomings for what I want to do with the computer at my nav station. *I
have a 20" LCD display at my nav. Try that on a toughbook.

Jesus H Christ Skip twenty inches ! ! ! Why the **** doint ya jsut
get a 36 inch wide screen plasma while youre at it.
Your gear choice is absolutly unbelievable !

You need some major brain adjustment Skip. Your reality syncros are
misaligned.

I would be willing to consult you back to reality. I work cheep: $180/
hour with a 2 hour minimum. Two hours will save you $1000s and 10,000s
of saved life hours in the next two years .

This one is free................. your technology quest will not keep
you safe.

Bob