On Aug 27, 12:31*pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
The Guinness Book of Records does not recognize Zac Sunderland's
circumnavigation because he had too much outside help. Bwaahahahhahahaha.

I told you so.

"The previous youngest to complete a similar voyage was American Zac
Sunderland last month, but his effort is not recognized by Guinness World
Records."

http://www.reuters.com/article/lifes...57Q2V220090827

Wilbur Hubbard

I really dont think his goal was to get into "the book".

He set out to single handedly circumnavigate the world by sailboat,
and that he did.

"silverdragon" wrote in message
...
On Aug 27, 12:31 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
The Guinness Book of Records does not recognize Zac Sunderland's
circumnavigation because he had too much outside help. Bwaahahahhahahaha.

I told you so.

"The previous youngest to complete a similar voyage was American Zac
Sunderland last month, but his effort is not recognized by Guinness World
Records."

http://www.reuters.com/article/lifes...57Q2V220090827

Wilbur Hubbard

:: I really dont think his goal was to get into "the book".
::
:: He set out to single handedly circumnavigate the world by sailboat,
:: and that he did.


Wrong! His stated goal was to be the youngest person to sail alone around
the world.

He failed miserable as he did not sail alone around the world. He had help
with tows into and out of various ports. He used the Panama Canal which is
not sailing. He had all sorts of people constantly working on his boat. He
dilly-dallied around for months at a time and had a birthday en route while
workmen refitted his boat time after time. Fail, fail, fail. The entire
journey was an embarrassment to us real sailors.

Sailing alone around the world involves the three great capes - Leeuwin,
Good Hope, Horn. Using the Panama Canal or the Suez canal is not a
circumnavigation. That alone makes a travesty out of it.

It's time we sailors started to face the facts that our pride and joy is
being *******ized by publicity hound parents who live vicariously through
their brats. Even worse is those arm chair sailors who seem to approve of
and support this trash sailing.

Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"silverdragon" wrote in message
...
On Aug 27, 12:31 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
The Guinness Book of Records does not recognize Zac Sunderland's
circumnavigation because he had too much outside help. Bwaahahahhahahaha.

I told you so.

"The previous youngest to complete a similar voyage was American Zac
Sunderland last month, but his effort is not recognized by Guinness World
Records."

http://www.reuters.com/article/lifes...57Q2V220090827

Wilbur Hubbard

:: I really dont think his goal was to get into "the book".
::
:: He set out to single handedly circumnavigate the world by sailboat,
:: and that he did.


Wrong! His stated goal was to be the youngest person to sail alone around
the world.

He failed miserable as he did not sail alone around the world. He had help
with tows into and out of various ports.

So did Perham.

He used the Panama Canal which is
not sailing.

So did Perham.

He had all sorts of people constantly working on his boat.

So did Perham.

He
dilly-dallied around for months at a time and had a birthday en route while
workmen refitted his boat time after time.

So did Perham. Perham did it faster though, because the boat he had
donated to him (unlike Sunderland who bought his own boat) was much faster.

Stephen

"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"silverdragon" wrote in message
...
On Aug 27, 12:31 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
The Guinness Book of Records does not recognize Zac Sunderland's
circumnavigation because he had too much outside help.
Bwaahahahhahahaha.

I told you so.

"The previous youngest to complete a similar voyage was American Zac
Sunderland last month, but his effort is not recognized by Guinness
World
Records."

http://www.reuters.com/article/lifes...57Q2V220090827

Wilbur Hubbard

:: I really dont think his goal was to get into "the book".
::
:: He set out to single handedly circumnavigate the world by sailboat,
:: and that he did.


Wrong! His stated goal was to be the youngest person to sail alone around
the world.

He failed miserable as he did not sail alone around the world. He had
help with tows into and out of various ports.

So did Perham.

Not so. Perham sailed most of the way foregoing the motor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Perham


He used the Panama Canal which is not sailing.

So did Perham.

True but he did intend, at least, to go the Cape Horn route but mechanical
problems caused him to use the Panama Canal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Perham


He had all sorts of people constantly working on his boat.

So did Perham.

Not so, he had limited help and only close to the finishing leg.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Perham


He dilly-dallied around for months at a time and had a birthday en route
while workmen refitted his boat time after time.

So did Perham. Perham did it faster though, because the boat he had
donated to him (unlike Sunderland who bought his own boat) was much
faster.

Perham did it faster because:

1: he had a faster boat
2: he didn't dilly-dally around at every other publicity port having
extensive repairs done on his boat by work crews.
3: Perham did not park his boat and fly home to spend a week at Christmas
visiting his family. This is why Zac did not get into the Guiness Book of
Records. Like I stated: too much outside help and not enough dedication to
the cause. A publicity stunt gone awry.

Wilbur Hubbard

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"silverdragon" wrote in message
...
On Aug 27, 12:31 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
The Guinness Book of Records does not recognize Zac Sunderland's
circumnavigation because he had too much outside help.
Bwaahahahhahahaha.

I told you so.

"The previous youngest to complete a similar voyage was American Zac
Sunderland last month, but his effort is not recognized by Guinness
World
Records."

http://www.reuters.com/article/lifes...57Q2V220090827

Wilbur Hubbard
:: I really dont think his goal was to get into "the book".
::
:: He set out to single handedly circumnavigate the world by sailboat,
:: and that he did.


Wrong! His stated goal was to be the youngest person to sail alone around
the world.

He failed miserable as he did not sail alone around the world. He had
help with tows into and out of various ports.
So did Perham.

Not so. Perham sailed most of the way foregoing the motor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Perham

That article does not say Perham wasn't towed. In fact, his record is
classified as "assisted." He was assisted heavily by his father and
numerous others, including tows. He said so repeatedly in his blog.

He used the Panama Canal which is not sailing.
So did Perham.

True but he did intend, at least, to go the Cape Horn route but mechanical
problems caused him to use the Panama Canal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Perham

He had all sorts of people constantly working on his boat.
So did Perham.

Not so, he had limited help and only close to the finishing leg.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Perham

At near the beginning, Perham even had the autopilot manufacturer fly in
a repairman who worked for days on it. Eventually someone replaced it
with an autopilot of different manufacture. He had numerous other
breakdowns and numerous other people working on his boat. The link you
provided doesn't say otherwise. It's all on his blog.

Stephen

"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"silverdragon" wrote in message
...
On Aug 27, 12:31 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
The Guinness Book of Records does not recognize Zac Sunderland's
circumnavigation because he had too much outside help.
Bwaahahahhahahaha.

I told you so.

"The previous youngest to complete a similar voyage was American Zac
Sunderland last month, but his effort is not recognized by Guinness
World
Records."

http://www.reuters.com/article/lifes...57Q2V220090827

Wilbur Hubbard
:: I really dont think his goal was to get into "the book".
::
:: He set out to single handedly circumnavigate the world by sailboat,
:: and that he did.


Wrong! His stated goal was to be the youngest person to sail alone
around the world.

He failed miserable as he did not sail alone around the world. He had
help with tows into and out of various ports.
So did Perham.

Not so. Perham sailed most of the way foregoing the motor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Perham

That article does not say Perham wasn't towed. In fact, his record is
classified as "assisted." He was assisted heavily by his father and
numerous others, including tows. He said so repeatedly in his blog.

He used the Panama Canal which is not sailing.
So did Perham.

True but he did intend, at least, to go the Cape Horn route but
mechanical problems caused him to use the Panama Canal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Perham

He had all sorts of people constantly working on his boat.
So did Perham.

Not so, he had limited help and only close to the finishing leg.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Perham

At near the beginning, Perham even had the autopilot manufacturer fly in a
repairman who worked for days on it. Eventually someone replaced it with
an autopilot of different manufacture. He had numerous other breakdowns
and numerous other people working on his boat. The link you provided
doesn't say otherwise. It's all on his blog.

Stephen



OK, then BOTH Zac and Mike are failures. You've convinced me.

Wilbur Hubbard

snip Wilma's trolling

Just go away and get a life Wilma.
If you spent the time on a boat you do trolling the internet you might get
some credibility with real sailors.
--
Duncan Heenan

Stephen Trapani wrote:
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"silverdragon" wrote in message
...
On Aug 27, 12:31 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
The Guinness Book of Records does not recognize Zac Sunderland's
circumnavigation because he had too much outside help.
Bwaahahahhahahaha.

I told you so.

"The previous youngest to complete a similar voyage was American Zac
Sunderland last month, but his effort is not recognized by Guinness
World
Records."

http://www.reuters.com/article/lifes...57Q2V220090827

Wilbur Hubbard

:: I really dont think his goal was to get into "the book".
::
:: He set out to single handedly circumnavigate the world by sailboat,
:: and that he did.


Wrong! His stated goal was to be the youngest person to sail alone
around the world.

He failed miserable as he did not sail alone around the world. He had
help with tows into and out of various ports.

So did Perham.

He used the Panama Canal which is not sailing.

So did Perham.

He had all sorts of people constantly working on his boat.

So did Perham.

He dilly-dallied around for months at a time and had a birthday en
route while workmen refitted his boat time after time.

So did Perham. Perham did it faster though, because the boat he had
donated to him (unlike Sunderland who bought his own boat) was much faster.

Stephen

I followed him and was a fan until he called daddy from the Indian Ocean
and asked what to do when his headstay broke. Calling daddy for advise
is wrong on many levels.

Daddy told him to put the spinnaker halyard on the bow. If he had to be
told that, he wasn't on his own.

On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:25:23 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"silverdragon" wrote in message
...
On Aug 27, 12:31 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
The Guinness Book of Records does not recognize Zac Sunderland's
circumnavigation because he had too much outside help. Bwaahahahhahahaha.

I told you so.

"The previous youngest to complete a similar voyage was American Zac
Sunderland last month, but his effort is not recognized by Guinness World
Records."

http://www.reuters.com/article/lifes...57Q2V220090827

Wilbur Hubbard

:: I really dont think his goal was to get into "the book".
::
:: He set out to single handedly circumnavigate the world by sailboat,
:: and that he did.


Wrong! His stated goal was to be the youngest person to sail alone around
the world.

He failed miserable as he did not sail alone around the world. He had help
with tows into and out of various ports. He used the Panama Canal which is
not sailing. He had all sorts of people constantly working on his boat. He
dilly-dallied around for months at a time and had a birthday en route while
workmen refitted his boat time after time. Fail, fail, fail. The entire
journey was an embarrassment to us real sailors.

Sailing alone around the world involves the three great capes - Leeuwin,
Good Hope, Horn. Using the Panama Canal or the Suez canal is not a
circumnavigation. That alone makes a travesty out of it.

It's time we sailors started to face the facts that our pride and joy is
being *******ized by publicity hound parents who live vicariously through
their brats. Even worse is those arm chair sailors who seem to approve of
and support this trash sailing.

Wilbur Hubbard




Neal is very familiar with being alone.

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:25:23 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"silverdragon" wrote in message
...
On Aug 27, 12:31 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
The Guinness Book of Records does not recognize Zac Sunderland's
circumnavigation because he had too much outside help.
Bwaahahahhahahaha.

I told you so.

"The previous youngest to complete a similar voyage was American Zac
Sunderland last month, but his effort is not recognized by Guinness
World
Records."

http://www.reuters.com/article/lifes...57Q2V220090827

Wilbur Hubbard

:: I really dont think his goal was to get into "the book".
::
:: He set out to single handedly circumnavigate the world by sailboat,
:: and that he did.


Wrong! His stated goal was to be the youngest person to sail alone around
the world.

He failed miserable as he did not sail alone around the world. He had help
with tows into and out of various ports. He used the Panama Canal which is
not sailing. He had all sorts of people constantly working on his boat. He
dilly-dallied around for months at a time and had a birthday en route
while
workmen refitted his boat time after time. Fail, fail, fail. The entire
journey was an embarrassment to us real sailors.

Sailing alone around the world involves the three great capes - Leeuwin,
Good Hope, Horn. Using the Panama Canal or the Suez canal is not a
circumnavigation. That alone makes a travesty out of it.

It's time we sailors started to face the facts that our pride and joy is
being *******ized by publicity hound parents who live vicariously through
their brats. Even worse is those arm chair sailors who seem to approve of
and support this trash sailing.

Wilbur Hubbard




Neal is very familiar with being alone.




You are too, apparently. Perhaps it's the dress, Mike?

http://www.facebook.com/mike.manners

Wilbur Hubbard