I know that this is a no win debate, but anyone have any
useful opinions?

Doug
s/v Callista

Doug -- the Profurl NC32 on my Rawson 30 is much easier to use than the
Harken MkII was on my CT-41. Go figure, eh? ;-)


--
Karin Conover-Lewis
Fair and Balanced since 1959
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"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
I know that this is a no win debate, but anyone have any
useful opinions?

Doug
s/v Callista

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
I know that this is a no win debate, but anyone have any
useful opinions?

Doug
s/v Callista

Hope this is useful:

Harken pros:

- has separate top furler unit (licensed from Hood I think) that allows the
foil to start turning before the top and bottom furlers, which allows for
better sail shape

Harken cons:

- smaller models have a drum that is a bit too small to accommodate decent
sized furling line.

Profurl pros:

- a bit more bulletproof construction IMO
- easy to get replacement bearings if the seals go

Profurl cons:

- the seals can sometimes fail on the bearings
- additional extrusions are more costly than Harken if the unit you want
doesn't provide enough length

Basically I think they are both pretty well developed pieces of gear. Happy
to have either on my boat (though last boat and this boat have Harken)


--
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(fools the spammers)

I have a couple of friends who've sworn by Schaefer.

CDI seems a bit problematic, however.

Me, I am a simpleton who uses hank ons. What a Luddite. G

R.

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:04:56 -0500, "Karin Conover-Lewis"
wrote:

Doug -- the Profurl NC32 on my Rawson 30 is much easier to use than the
Harken MkII was on my CT-41. Go figure, eh? ;-)

I had a friend in Los Angeles harbour whose mantra was, "Sails go up and
down -- toilet paper goes round and round." I noticed, though, that he
didn't seem to mind using the roller furler on MY boat. lol

--
Karin Conover-Lewis
Fair and Balanced since 1959
klc dot lewis at centurytel dot net


"rhys" wrote in message
...
I have a couple of friends who've sworn by Schaefer.

CDI seems a bit problematic, however.

Me, I am a simpleton who uses hank ons. What a Luddite. G

R.

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:10:40 -0500, "Karin Conover-Lewis"
wrote:

I had a friend in Los Angeles harbour whose mantra was, "Sails go up and
down -- toilet paper goes round and round." I noticed, though, that he
didn't seem to mind using the roller furler on MY boat. lol

I have used Harken without problem on charter boats, and others with
problems on friends' boats. If that is what is there you try to make
it work.

There is a boat like ours here with Profurl, and I haven't seen it
give any trouble.

I prefer hanks on my own boat.






Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

"That idiot Leibniz, who wants to teach me about the infinitesimally small! Has he therefore forgotten that I am the wife of Frederick I? How can he imagine that I am unacquainted with my own husband?"

How does this help me decide between Harken and Profurl?

"rhys" wrote in message
...
I have a couple of friends who've sworn by Schaefer.

CDI seems a bit problematic, however.

Me, I am a simpleton who uses hank ons. What a Luddite. G

R.

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:04:56 -0500, "Karin Conover-Lewis"
wrote:

Doug -- the Profurl NC32 on my Rawson 30 is much easier to use than the
Harken MkII was on my CT-41. Go figure, eh? ;-)

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:19:54 -0400, something compelled "Doug
Dotson" , to say:

How does this help me decide between Harken and Profurl?

It doesn't. The advice you are receiving is worth every penney
you paid.

I've had 2 Profurl's. One a lot longer than the other. After 2 years
of solid So Pac cruising the seals in the lower unit failed and the
bearing started to be hard to turn. The bearings (2) were standard
off-the-shelf carbon steel - they rust and seize solid in salt water
after the seals fail. Make sure you can get spare seals and bearings
if you choose Profurl. Also watch out for putting the rotating
extrusions together - the s/s setscrews weld into the Al extrusions
without miracle goop.

I might buy another Profurl but only after looking at other products
and spares available. Profurl in the US were miserable assholes to
deal with from NZ.

My opinion of Harken as a co. is much higher than the Profurl
distributors in the US.

Of course, if you're a marina sailor - it won't matter.



Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:19:54 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

How does this help me decide between Harken and Profurl?

"rhys" wrote in message
.. .
I have a couple of friends who've sworn by Schaefer.

CDI seems a bit problematic, however.

Me, I am a simpleton who uses hank ons. What a Luddite. G

R.

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:04:56 -0500, "Karin Conover-Lewis"
wrote:

Doug -- the Profurl NC32 on my Rawson 30 is much easier to use than the
Harken MkII was on my CT-41. Go figure, eh? ;-)

Comments below.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Hank" wrote in message
...
I've had 2 Profurl's. One a lot longer than the other. After 2 years
of solid So Pac cruising the seals in the lower unit failed and the
bearing started to be hard to turn. The bearings (2) were standard
off-the-shelf carbon steel - they rust and seize solid in salt water
after the seals fail. Make sure you can get spare seals and bearings
if you choose Profurl. Also watch out for putting the rotating
extrusions together - the s/s setscrews weld into the Al extrusions
without miracle goop.

I've heard about the problems with the seals and bearings. Only an
idiot would put ss screws into an al extrusion without protection.

I might buy another Profurl but only after looking at other products
and spares available. Profurl in the US were miserable assholes to
deal with from NZ.

Isn't ProFurl a French company? If so, why go through US distributors
from NZ?

My opinion of Harken as a co. is much higher than the Profurl
distributors in the US.

I have heard that Harken is very good company. Most of the other hardware
on our boat is Harken or will be soon.

Of course, if you're a marina sailor - it won't matter.

If I were a marina sailor that I would be happy with the Famet
furlers I have.


Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:19:54 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

How does this help me decide between Harken and Profurl?

"rhys" wrote in message
.. .
I have a couple of friends who've sworn by Schaefer.

CDI seems a bit problematic, however.

Me, I am a simpleton who uses hank ons. What a Luddite. G

R.

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:04:56 -0500, "Karin Conover-Lewis"
wrote:

Doug -- the Profurl NC32 on my Rawson 30 is much easier to use than
the
Harken MkII was on my CT-41. Go figure, eh? ;-)