"Larry" wrote in message
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http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...121412669439.h
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trying to deliver much needed medical supplies to Gaza through the Israeli
Blockade.....IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS.....nothing new for the Zionists:

http://www.gtr5.com/

Accident my ass......



Larry, obviously you don't have the "faith" that makes it ok for those
azzholes to do whatever they want. "Faith" is why the USG allows them a huge
Lobbist group and why the USG sends more aid money to them than the rest
combined while they sell our military secrets to the Chinese.

Vic Smith wrote:


Though I can't disagree with anything you've said, I do think the
Israeli jews believe they will be slaughtered, or exiled from Israel
should they treat Palestinians like we in the U.S. treat Mexicans or
blacks. I'm not sure of that, but if were an Israeli I suspect I
would take that tack. Though we've been multicultural throughout our
history, there is plenty of opposition here in the U.S. to letting the
language aspect of multiculturalism bleed into everyday life. I get a
bit ****ed every time I'm asked to choose 1 or 2 on the phone.
Wouldn't think of moving to Mexico and conducting business on the
phone without speaking Spanish.
So I'm sure we agree on some things.
My support for the Palestinians dried up when Israel finally withdrew
from the occupied territories and I saw the result.
Not a damned thing changed.
Blood lust. Not too different than the other radical Muslims.
Except when I feel the lust myself - and I have - I take no sides.
These are just off the cuff remarks, and I may be wrong about much of
it, and since nobody pays for my opinions, that's what they're worth.
Nothing. But I do like to write them down now and then.
And hear others' opinions.



The reasoning you give for the Jews demanding an essentially ethnically
clean State is the one that Israelis living here have said to me. Their
argument is identical to the whites in South Africa before the black
takeover. They won't live in a non-Jewish (non white when it comes to
SA) state.

Why? Would those same Jews demand that no area, no voting district, no
precinct in the US be less than 51% white?

The problem, as I understand it, with the areas now in fully Palestinian
hands is that there are no ways to make a living there. There is no
industry. No capital. Nothing. Sure, many impoverished Jews showed up in
Israel during the past 60 years (or more) but they were sponsored by
wealthy Jews from other lands such as Britain and the USA.

What causes radical Muslims? Part of it must be that there is nothing
for them to lose in this world so they become easy to convince that
their payoff is in taking out a few Jews rather than living a welfare
life in some camp forever. Look at these guys as being Mexicans peering
across the border to a prosperous land they wish to enter & work in.
They can't because they are caged up, wall up and patrolled with machine
guns.

I am NOT defending random tossing of missiles into Israel by these guys.
Not even close. I'm only saying that, IMO, US policy isn't looking at
the entire picture.

Capt. JG wrote:


Ethnically pure? Ummm.... I don't think so. There are many non-Jews who are
Israeli citizens. They may not have as much of an impact as do the ethnical
Jews, but they are part of the politics. They've also assimilated Ethiopians
and other ethnic minorities.


Oh, please. They are, at best, second or third class citizens. How much
representation to they have in the Knesset?

Take your idiotic liberal pretensions somewhere else. No room for this
where reason exists.

Capt. JG wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message
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Bull****, Ganz. They're building a 700 mile long apartheid wall around
the
Palestinians to contain them and try to starve them all to hell.

trash removed

This is yet again disgusting. You're claiming that everything is a Zionist
plot. That Jews are bad. We get it. Now take it somewhere else. Your racist
attitudes are your own problem, but it seems that's not good enough. You
claimed previously that I have "****ty attitude." Talk about irony. It's
sickening and has no place anywhere except in your own ugly thoughts.


Uh, the wall, the machine guns, the lack of any representation within
the Knesset - those are, if mentioned, just more Antisemitism.

Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:31:13 -0700, slide


But there large numbers of Arabs living and working inside Israel.
Wasn't one of the big complaints about the "wall" that it was "hard to
get to work"?

They are essentially green card guest workers brought in to clean the
bathrooms of the ruling class Jews. They have no political power.

It's like colored guys in the US, 1920's. They were 10% of the
population but 0% of the political power structure.

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:36:36 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:20:57 -0800, Capt. JG wrote:


This is yet again disgusting. You're claiming that everything is a
Zionist plot. That Jews are bad. We get it. Now take it somewhere else.
Your racist attitudes are your own problem, but it seems that's not good
enough. You claimed previously that I have "****ty attitude." Talk about
irony. It's sickening and has no place anywhere except in your own ugly
thoughts.

I don't believe in Zionist plots, but it's difficult to ignore the
similarities between the Gaza strip, and the Warsaw Ghetto.

Except the Warsaw Jews didn't have any rockets....
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

"TheRealSteve" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:02:48 +0000, Larry wrote:

Vic Smith wrote in
m:

Blood lust. Not too different than the other radical Muslims.
Except when I feel the lust myself - and I have - I take no sides.
These are just off the cuff remarks, and I may be wrong about much of
it, and since nobody pays for my opinions, that's what they're worth.
Nothing. But I do like to write them down now and then.
And hear others' opinions.

--Vic


Let's try an experiment. I don't know where you live, but let's say it's
Florida......

World War 2 is almost over and a small, but financially powerful, group of
Seminole Indians want a country all their own. They know they can't get
it
in America, but they have gotten control of America's currency and worked
very hard to help the British to win the war against the Germans with
hidden funding, intellegence, and some really dirty tricks.

Canada and Britain have promised these Indians that after the war they are
going to go into Florida with military force and throw the damned

Larry, when you give all of your posessions (property, house,
everything else you own) back to the INDIANS who had their land taken
away from them so you can own it and you move back to Europe or
wherever your forfathers emigrated from, then you may have a single
iota of credability on this subject. Until then, you're just blowing
smoke signals.

Steve


Nah... we pay reparations with alcohol.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"slide" wrote in message
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Vic Smith wrote:


Though I can't disagree with anything you've said, I do think the
Israeli jews believe they will be slaughtered, or exiled from Israel
should they treat Palestinians like we in the U.S. treat Mexicans or
blacks. I'm not sure of that, but if were an Israeli I suspect I
would take that tack. Though we've been multicultural throughout our
history, there is plenty of opposition here in the U.S. to letting the
language aspect of multiculturalism bleed into everyday life. I get a
bit ****ed every time I'm asked to choose 1 or 2 on the phone. Wouldn't
think of moving to Mexico and conducting business on the
phone without speaking Spanish.
So I'm sure we agree on some things.
My support for the Palestinians dried up when Israel finally withdrew
from the occupied territories and I saw the result.
Not a damned thing changed. Blood lust. Not too different than the other
radical Muslims.
Except when I feel the lust myself - and I have - I take no sides.
These are just off the cuff remarks, and I may be wrong about much of
it, and since nobody pays for my opinions, that's what they're worth.
Nothing. But I do like to write them down now and then.
And hear others' opinions.


The reasoning you give for the Jews demanding an essentially ethnically
clean State is the one that Israelis living here have said to me. Their
argument is identical to the whites in South Africa before the black
takeover. They won't live in a non-Jewish (non white when it comes to SA)
state.

Why? Would those same Jews demand that no area, no voting district, no
precinct in the US be less than 51% white?

The problem, as I understand it, with the areas now in fully Palestinian
hands is that there are no ways to make a living there. There is no
industry. No capital. Nothing. Sure, many impoverished Jews showed up in
Israel during the past 60 years (or more) but they were sponsored by
wealthy Jews from other lands such as Britain and the USA.

What causes radical Muslims? Part of it must be that there is nothing for
them to lose in this world so they become easy to convince that their
payoff is in taking out a few Jews rather than living a welfare life in
some camp forever. Look at these guys as being Mexicans peering across the
border to a prosperous land they wish to enter & work in. They can't
because they are caged up, wall up and patrolled with machine guns.

I am NOT defending random tossing of missiles into Israel by these guys.
Not even close. I'm only saying that, IMO, US policy isn't looking at the
entire picture.


I agree... we're not looking at the entire picture. We need to be a
relatively unbiased broker if we want to help resolve the conflict. However,
your statement that all the people who immigrated to Israel with sponsored
by the wealthy is false. I know for a fact that's false, since I have some
very unwealthy friends who moved there on their own, struggled for years,
and finally became what we would call middle class. There are Palestinian
Israelis who own businesses and have money... not as many as there are
Jewish Israelis certainly.

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www.sailnow.com

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On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:20:57 -0800, Capt. JG wrote:


This is yet again disgusting. You're claiming that everything is a
Zionist plot. That Jews are bad. We get it. Now take it somewhere else.
Your racist attitudes are your own problem, but it seems that's not good
enough. You claimed previously that I have "****ty attitude." Talk about
irony. It's sickening and has no place anywhere except in your own ugly
thoughts.

I don't believe in Zionist plots, but it's difficult to ignore the
similarities between the Gaza strip, and the Warsaw Ghetto.


It's easy to find similarities to many things if you look close enough. They
are in no way comparable. It's a gross misstatement. Gaza is a terrible
place, but it's not a walled in concentration camp.

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"slide" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message
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Bull****, Ganz. They're building a 700 mile long apartheid wall around
the
Palestinians to contain them and try to starve them all to hell.

trash removed

This is yet again disgusting. You're claiming that everything is a
Zionist plot. That Jews are bad. We get it. Now take it somewhere else.
Your racist attitudes are your own problem, but it seems that's not good
enough. You claimed previously that I have "****ty attitude." Talk about
irony. It's sickening and has no place anywhere except in your own ugly
thoughts.


Uh, the wall, the machine guns, the lack of any representation within the
Knesset - those are, if mentioned, just more Antisemitism.


Not at all. Those should be up for discussion and should be, must be
resolved. The difference is that Larry cries Zionistist plots and spews
anti-Jewish statements whenever he pleases. He's got the right to do that,
but I have just as much right to call him on it.

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www.sailnow.com