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According to you, apparently, the "final solution" was an incomplete
1940s action plan.

Dead women, dead children.....Jews at Auchwitz? No, Dead kids in the Gaza
Concentration Camp. No food, no water, no hope, no electricity, no water.
Goddamned Genocide....

I'm seeing napalm popping off. Trying to kill Hamas, my ass. Trying to
kill them all.

**** you and your goddamned Zionist murderers.

**** the Zionist US government for supporting genocide.

Hitler should have killed them all.



Thanks for clarifying your thoughts. You need to get some help.

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On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:53:47 -0800, "Capt. JG"
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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:53:23 -0800, "Capt. JG"
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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:44:17 -0800, "Capt. JG"
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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 05:08:48 -0600, wrote:

On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:12:22 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


Are they innocent? they elected Hamus an openly terrorist
organization
who advocate the forcible eradication of Israel.

Is that really innocent?
Cheers,

The children did that?

Nope, the voters did that but as the "children" throw stones at
Israeli soldiers and otherwise do their best to incite the situation
how innocent can one consider them?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I consider the children mostly innocent. They do what most children
do...
follow their role models' lead. I understand why the adults voted in
Hamas;
Israel should have, could have, and should do more for the cause of
peace,
but that does not excuse the indescriminate firing of rockets and the
calls
for the descruction of Israel by the Hamas leadership. Both need to end.

I wonder whether you would find the "child" who carried a bomb into
the restaurant where it exploded killing your wife/child/loved one so
innocent as you feel at the moment sitting safely at home watching the
T.V.

As far as the "cause of peace" it is somewhat difficult to have a
peace with folks who hate you, who's religion (and don't think that
the Palestinians aren't true believers) teaches them that outsiders,
infidels, have no rights and should be eradicated if they don't
convert.

To get an impression of Islamic beliefs understand that it is 1430 in
the Islamic calendar. Review Christian history for the mid 1400's A.D.
and it will give you a fairly accurate picture.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I probably wouldn't but the child would be innocent and would have been
used
by an adult. Children's brains are not sufficiently developed to guarantee
knowing right from wrong. That's why we don't as a rule execute kids.

It is difficult, as you say, but it's not impossible. I also believe that
most people, without regard to religion, would prefer peace and
coexistence
to war and death. Islam is not a "violent" religion, any more than
Christianity or Judism.


I disagree with you. If you believe that Islam is not a violent
religion read the Koran. It is full of instructions regarding how
non-believers are to be treated. Most of them harshly. The propaganda
that Islam is a religion of submission and thus a peaceful religion if
just that propaganda. Islam is a religion of submission - submission
to the will of God and does not include non-believers inside the magic
circle.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I don't think you've read it. I have. It's not about violence any more than
is the bible.


Sorry about your misconceptions. I lived for nearly 20 years in the
largest Moslem nation in the world and read the Koran several times.
Your statement that it is no more violent then the Christian Bible is
true however the Bible is rather emphatic about things - thou shall
not suffer a witch to live, etc. Read the return to the promised land
after the Egyptian interlude for examples of God's will.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:39:37 +0000, Larry wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
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Of course there is a God.


Bruce, have you watched Zeitgeist and the new Zeitgeist Addendum?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kHhc67GopM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gKX9TWRyfs


Of course, you'll need the annotated transcript with full disclosure and
research to back up what the movie is telling you:

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/transcript.htm

Religion seems to have stopped, at least momentarily, trying to have the
movie erased from the net. It's not very good for business, I suppose.

Especially religious people need to watch this movie, carefully and with
what's left of their minds, follow up the additional information and
pointers in the transcript, then do something they probably have never done
before.....think for themselves at what's being done to them.

.......before humanity has the "final solution" where we all kill ourselves
in the name of religion.....


Personally I don't think it is religion, exactly. It is "mine is
bigger and better then yours". The Thais, for example, think that the
Southerners, who are Moslem, are totally wrong while, of course, the
southerners know exactly the same thing about the rest of the Kingdom.

The Catholics teach that the best the protestant religions have to
look forward to is purgatory and of course the Protestants know that
the Catholics are totally incorrect.

The Moslem.Jewish fiasco if typically stupid as they both worship the
same god - the god of Abraham...just like the Christians, who also
have persecuted the Jews...

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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I don't think you've read it. I have. It's not about violence any more
than
is the bible.


Sorry about your misconceptions. I lived for nearly 20 years in the
largest Moslem nation in the world and read the Koran several times.
Your statement that it is no more violent then the Christian Bible is
true however the Bible is rather emphatic about things - thou shall
not suffer a witch to live, etc. Read the return to the promised land
after the Egyptian interlude for examples of God's will.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I withdraw my comment that you haven't read it, but I stand by your
confirmation that the bible is no different. If that's the case, then it
seems like my original statement isn't far off. Most Christians don't
believe the bible advocates violence. I believe that most Muslims don't
believe the Koran advocates violence either.

Are you a Muslim? If not, then did you feel yourself to be in danger? FYI,
I've read that many of that religion are offended by the use of Moslem vs.
Muslim. Have you heard of this?

I found a reference on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim.

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Dave wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:44:08 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok
said:

thou shall
not suffer a witch to live,

Where would I find this little-known verse?

In the Bible, of course. It isn't "little-known" by any serious reader
since there are a number of situations that refer back to it. In the
ancient Hebrew world there was little doubt that witchcraft was
effective, but it was considered an insult to God.

Specifically, its Exodus 22:18 in the King James. In the Hebrew (JPS)
Bible its Exodus 22:17, just between "seducing a virgin for whom the
bride-price has not been paid" and "lies with a beast."

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"jeff" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:44:08 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok
said:

thou shall
not suffer a witch to live,

Where would I find this little-known verse?

In the Bible, of course. It isn't "little-known" by any serious reader
since there are a number of situations that refer back to it. In the
ancient Hebrew world there was little doubt that witchcraft was effective,
but it was considered an insult to God.

Specifically, its Exodus 22:18 in the King James. In the Hebrew (JPS)
Bible its Exodus 22:17, just between "seducing a virgin for whom the
bride-price has not been paid" and "lies with a beast."


I believe it's a mis-translation.

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Larry wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in
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According to you, apparently, the "final solution" was an incomplete
1940s action plan.

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Dead women, dead children.....Jews at Auchwitz? No, Dead kids in the Gaza
Concentration Camp. No food, no water, no hope, no electricity, no water.
Goddamned Genocide....

I'm seeing napalm popping off. Trying to kill Hamas, my ass. Trying to
kill them all.

**** you and your goddamned Zionist murderers.

**** the Zionist US government for supporting genocide.

Hitler should have killed them all.


yeah, right Larry, who shipped in more than 8000 tons of humanitarian
aid since the end of the "cease fire"? Ooops, that would be those
Zionist murderers from Israel,,,,,, how much from the Arab
Brethren,,,,, zip, nada, nothing,,,,, who's supporting genocide,,,,


you are an idiot.

Martin

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"jeff" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:44:08 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok
said:

thou shall
not suffer a witch to live,

Where would I find this little-known verse?

In the Bible, of course. It isn't "little-known" by any serious reader
since there are a number of situations that refer back to it. In the
ancient Hebrew world there was little doubt that witchcraft was
effective, but it was considered an insult to God.

Specifically, its Exodus 22:18 in the King James. In the Hebrew (JPS)
Bible its Exodus 22:17, just between "seducing a virgin for whom the
bride-price has not been paid" and "lies with a beast."


I believe it's a mis-translation.

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There's certainly plenty of those in the KJV, but it is what it is. Likewise
with the Qur'an -- any translation is only a translation, and fails to
capture the exact meaning of the original Arabic text. Personally, I feel
that if God has a message for me, it will be given in language that I
understand, no translations necessary.

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Dave wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:44:08 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok
said:

thou shall
not suffer a witch to live,

Where would I find this little-known verse?

In the Bible, of course. It isn't "little-known" by any serious reader
since there are a number of situations that refer back to it. In the
ancient Hebrew world there was little doubt that witchcraft was
effective, but it was considered an insult to God.

Specifically, its Exodus 22:18 in the King James. In the Hebrew (JPS)
Bible its Exodus 22:17, just between "seducing a virgin for whom the
bride-price has not been paid" and "lies with a beast."


I believe it's a mis-translation.

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There's certainly plenty of those in the KJV, but it is what it is.
Likewise with the Qur'an -- any translation is only a translation, and
fails to capture the exact meaning of the original Arabic text.
Personally, I feel that if God has a message for me, it will be given in
language that I understand, no translations necessary.



Like last week? She told me to f*ck off.

Oh sorry, that was a goddess.

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Dave wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:44:08 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok
said:

thou shall
not suffer a witch to live,

Where would I find this little-known verse?

In the Bible, of course. It isn't "little-known" by any serious reader
since there are a number of situations that refer back to it. In the
ancient Hebrew world there was little doubt that witchcraft was
effective, but it was considered an insult to God.

Specifically, its Exodus 22:18 in the King James. In the Hebrew (JPS)
Bible its Exodus 22:17, just between "seducing a virgin for whom the
bride-price has not been paid" and "lies with a beast."


I believe it's a mis-translation.

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There's certainly plenty of those in the KJV, but it is what it is.
Likewise with the Qur'an -- any translation is only a translation, and
fails to capture the exact meaning of the original Arabic text.
Personally, I feel that if God has a message for me, it will be given in
language that I understand, no translations necessary.



Like last week? She told me to f*ck off.

Oh sorry, that was a goddess.

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Now that's what I call a clear message. lol