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Jeff January 3rd 09 03:47 AM

M/V "Dignity" RAMMED by Israeli Navy gunboat.
 
slide wrote:
Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:31:13 -0700, slide



But there large numbers of Arabs living and working inside Israel.
Wasn't one of the big complaints about the "wall" that it was "hard to
get to work"?


They are essentially green card guest workers brought in to clean the
bathrooms of the ruling class Jews. They have no political power.

It's like colored guys in the US, 1920's. They were 10% of the
population but 0% of the political power structure.

You're really hung up on this claim there are no Arabs in the Knesset.
Why are you ignoring the fact that 11% of the Knesset IS Arab? Or do
you think that repeating lies over and over makes them true?




Marty[_2_] January 3rd 09 04:03 AM

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Justin C wrote:
In article , Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
I don't
follow M. East politics much but didn't the Israelis agree to
negotiate some sort of peace scheme with the Palestinians?


AIUI it fell apart just before Christmas with first wave of missiles
from the Palestinians.


First wave? Never was a ceasefire from Hamas, during the course of the
six months of the supposed ceasefire, they launched something like 1800
rockets into Israel. Since Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, (remember
that, they gave the land back, complete with new infrastructure,
irrigation systems, roads, water works..etc,,,,since then it's fallen
apart, nobody can keep anything more sophisticated than an oil lamp
running) the nice Palestinians have launched more than 10,000 rockets at
Israel.

What other country, with the capability to completely destroy it's
attacker would tolerate such?

Cheers
Martin

Marty[_2_] January 3rd 09 04:10 AM

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jeff wrote:
slide wrote:
Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:31:13 -0700, slide



But there large numbers of Arabs living and working inside Israel.
Wasn't one of the big complaints about the "wall" that it was "hard to
get to work"?


They are essentially green card guest workers brought in to clean the
bathrooms of the ruling class Jews. They have no political power.

It's like colored guys in the US, 1920's. They were 10% of the
population but 0% of the political power structure.

You're really hung up on this claim there are no Arabs in the Knesset.
Why are you ignoring the fact that 11% of the Knesset IS Arab? Or do
you think that repeating lies over and over makes them true?


It's just not cricket to use the facts Jeff!

Cheers
Martin

Larry January 3rd 09 06:36 AM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in news:CuydnQE-
reasolutions:

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

Not at all. Those should be up for discussion and should be, must be
resolved. The difference is that Larry cries Zionistist plots and
spews anti-Jewish statements whenever he pleases. He's got the right
to do that, but I have just as much right to call him on it.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



Do, or did, your kids go to a public school or a Jewish school?



And the relevance is????


Just trying to discover your motives.....


[email protected] January 3rd 09 11:08 AM

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On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:12:22 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


Are they innocent? they elected Hamus an openly terrorist organization
who advocate the forcible eradication of Israel.

Is that really innocent?
Cheers,


The children did that?

Bruce In Bangkok January 3rd 09 12:47 PM

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On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 05:08:48 -0600, wrote:

On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:12:22 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


Are they innocent? they elected Hamus an openly terrorist organization
who advocate the forcible eradication of Israel.

Is that really innocent?
Cheers,


The children did that?


Nope, the voters did that but as the "children" throw stones at
Israeli soldiers and otherwise do their best to incite the situation
how innocent can one consider them?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

KLC Lewis January 3rd 09 03:20 PM

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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:00:33 -0600, wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:35:01 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:37:15 -0600,
said:

Gaza is a prison in which women, children, and other innocent civilians
are forced to live.

That certainly qualifies as the stupidest statement of the year to date.


What's stupid? That there are innocent civilians in Gaza, or that it is
a prison? It seems to fit this definition:

1. A place where persons are confined, or restrained of
personal liberty; hence, a place or state o? confinement,
restraint, or safe custody.
[1913 Webster]



Are they innocent? they elected Hamus an openly terrorist organization
who advocate the forcible eradication of Israel.

Is that really innocent?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Some Palestinians don't want Israel to exist. Some Israelis don't want
Palestine to exist. Both sides are working to wipe the other off the face of
the Earth. Innocence is hard to find.



Capt. JG January 3rd 09 06:44 PM

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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 05:08:48 -0600, wrote:

On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:12:22 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


Are they innocent? they elected Hamus an openly terrorist organization
who advocate the forcible eradication of Israel.

Is that really innocent?
Cheers,


The children did that?


Nope, the voters did that but as the "children" throw stones at
Israeli soldiers and otherwise do their best to incite the situation
how innocent can one consider them?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



I consider the children mostly innocent. They do what most children do...
follow their role models' lead. I understand why the adults voted in Hamas;
Israel should have, could have, and should do more for the cause of peace,
but that does not excuse the indescriminate firing of rockets and the calls
for the descruction of Israel by the Hamas leadership. Both need to end.


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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG January 3rd 09 06:50 PM

M/V "Dignity" RAMMED by Israeli Navy gunboat.
 
"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote in news:CuydnQE-
reasolutions:

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

Not at all. Those should be up for discussion and should be, must be
resolved. The difference is that Larry cries Zionistist plots and
spews anti-Jewish statements whenever he pleases. He's got the right
to do that, but I have just as much right to call him on it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



Do, or did, your kids go to a public school or a Jewish school?



And the relevance is????


Just trying to discover your motives.....



My motives are obvious... it's called peace and acceptance. I don't need to
discover your motives. You've made them clear.

Did I mention that my father was a 32nd degree Mason, and that I got a call
just before 9/11, so I called all my Jewish friends at Kanter/Fitzgerald,
but they just ignored me? LOL

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...MwZjE2YzAxMGU=



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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Larry January 3rd 09 08:08 PM

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wrote in news:kdedndTN_
et:

On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:12:22 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


Are they innocent? they elected Hamus an openly terrorist organization
who advocate the forcible eradication of Israel.

Is that really innocent?
Cheers,


The children did that?


Yes. and those United States tanks and jets and helicopters are going to
kill a lot of them, now that the invasion of the Gaza Concentration Camp
has begun....

.....America now have even more innocent blood on its Zionist hands.



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