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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:26:27 -0500, "mmc" wrote:


"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:16:27 -0000, Justin C
wrote:

In article lutions,
Capt. JG wrote:

[big snip]

that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news
agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't believe
Israel has a right to exist.

I don't think you'll find it's the *existence* of Israel that is the
problem, it's *where* it exists that is the cause of the trouble. For
example, if the Jews had, let's say, Rhode Island, I'm sure the
Palestinians and Jordanians would be quite happy but would you?

Justin.

Certainly, who cares about Rhode Island? Better yet, give 'em Miami as
it is much the Jewish homeland as Palestine..

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
They have to grow old and cantankerous in New York before they're allowed to
move to South Florida.

From the people I met it was always "New Joisy".

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:26:27 -0500, "mmc" wrote:


"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:16:27 -0000, Justin C
wrote:

In article lutions,
Capt. JG wrote:

[big snip]

that's the perception that's being generated by the Arab run news
agencies based in countries where the governments usually don't
believe
Israel has a right to exist.

I don't think you'll find it's the *existence* of Israel that is the
problem, it's *where* it exists that is the cause of the trouble. For
example, if the Jews had, let's say, Rhode Island, I'm sure the
Palestinians and Jordanians would be quite happy but would you?

Justin.

Certainly, who cares about Rhode Island? Better yet, give 'em Miami as
it is much the Jewish homeland as Palestine..

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
They have to grow old and cantankerous in New York before they're allowed
to
move to South Florida.

From the people I met it was always "New Joisy".

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)
I believe they have to be a little more grouchy if they're from NJ.

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Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
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Of course there is a God.


Bruce, have you watched Zeitgeist and the new Zeitgeist Addendum?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kHhc67GopM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gKX9TWRyfs


Of course, you'll need the annotated transcript with full disclosure and
research to back up what the movie is telling you:

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/transcript.htm

Religion seems to have stopped, at least momentarily, trying to have the
movie erased from the net. It's not very good for business, I suppose.

Especially religious people need to watch this movie, carefully and with
what's left of their minds, follow up the additional information and
pointers in the transcript, then do something they probably have never done
before.....think for themselves at what's being done to them.

........before humanity has the "final solution" where we all kill ourselves
in the name of religion.....

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"Larry" wrote in message
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Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

Of course there is a God.


Bruce, have you watched Zeitgeist and the new Zeitgeist Addendum?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kHhc67GopM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gKX9TWRyfs


Of course, you'll need the annotated transcript with full disclosure and
research to back up what the movie is telling you:

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/transcript.htm

Religion seems to have stopped, at least momentarily, trying to have the
movie erased from the net. It's not very good for business, I suppose.

Especially religious people need to watch this movie, carefully and with
what's left of their minds, follow up the additional information and
pointers in the transcript, then do something they probably have never
done
before.....think for themselves at what's being done to them.

.......before humanity has the "final solution" where we all kill
ourselves
in the name of religion.....



According to you, apparently, the "final solution" was an incomplete 1940s
action plan.

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"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:53:23 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 10:44:17 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote in message
m...
On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 05:08:48 -0600, wrote:

On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 08:12:22 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok wrote:


Are they innocent? they elected Hamus an openly terrorist
organization
who advocate the forcible eradication of Israel.

Is that really innocent?
Cheers,

The children did that?

Nope, the voters did that but as the "children" throw stones at
Israeli soldiers and otherwise do their best to incite the situation
how innocent can one consider them?

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I consider the children mostly innocent. They do what most children
do...
follow their role models' lead. I understand why the adults voted in
Hamas;
Israel should have, could have, and should do more for the cause of
peace,
but that does not excuse the indescriminate firing of rockets and the
calls
for the descruction of Israel by the Hamas leadership. Both need to end.

I wonder whether you would find the "child" who carried a bomb into
the restaurant where it exploded killing your wife/child/loved one so
innocent as you feel at the moment sitting safely at home watching the
T.V.

As far as the "cause of peace" it is somewhat difficult to have a
peace with folks who hate you, who's religion (and don't think that
the Palestinians aren't true believers) teaches them that outsiders,
infidels, have no rights and should be eradicated if they don't
convert.

To get an impression of Islamic beliefs understand that it is 1430 in
the Islamic calendar. Review Christian history for the mid 1400's A.D.
and it will give you a fairly accurate picture.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I probably wouldn't but the child would be innocent and would have been
used
by an adult. Children's brains are not sufficiently developed to guarantee
knowing right from wrong. That's why we don't as a rule execute kids.

It is difficult, as you say, but it's not impossible. I also believe that
most people, without regard to religion, would prefer peace and
coexistence
to war and death. Islam is not a "violent" religion, any more than
Christianity or Judism.


I disagree with you. If you believe that Islam is not a violent
religion read the Koran. It is full of instructions regarding how
non-believers are to be treated. Most of them harshly. The propaganda
that Islam is a religion of submission and thus a peaceful religion if
just that propaganda. Islam is a religion of submission - submission
to the will of God and does not include non-believers inside the magic
circle.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


I don't think you've read it. I have. It's not about violence any more than
is the bible.


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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions...
I don't think you've read it. I have. It's not about violence any more
than is the bible.


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Precisely. Extremists twist all religions to suit their own ends. Al Qaeda
represents Islam to the same extent that Fred Phelps represents
Christianity.

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Larry wrote:
Bruce In Bangkok wrote in
:

Of course there is a God.


Bruce, have you watched Zeitgeist and the new Zeitgeist Addendum?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kHhc67GopM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gKX9TWRyfs


Zietgeist and zietgeist II are about a lot more than just religion.
And the religion thing has gone on for centuries and will go on for many
centuries more.
As for the rest of zietgeist, IMHO, 10% truth, 90% distortion,
hypocrisies, half truths, and plain crap!
IMHO
Gordon

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"Capt. JG" wrote in
easolutions:

According to you, apparently, the "final solution" was an incomplete
1940s action plan.

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Dead women, dead children.....Jews at Auchwitz? No, Dead kids in the Gaza
Concentration Camp. No food, no water, no hope, no electricity, no water.
Goddamned Genocide....

I'm seeing napalm popping off. Trying to kill Hamas, my ass. Trying to
kill them all.

**** you and your goddamned Zionist murderers.

**** the Zionist US government for supporting genocide.

Hitler should have killed them all.

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In article , Larry wrote:
I'm seeing napalm popping off. Trying to kill Hamas, my ass. Trying to
kill them all.

Well, that *would* do it.

Justin.

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On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:53:23 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Islam is not a "violent" religion, any more than
Christianity or Judism.

The Nazis professed to be Christians.

Casady