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"Larry" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in easolutions: either someone has been deliberately turning off the A/C (not necessarily maliciously) or something in the box is tripping the switch When a breaker trips from overcurrent, it needs to be "reset" by pushing it into the off position, or pushing a popout button on some breakers. You talk as if the breaker has just been switched off as you said nothing about having to reset the breaker before turning it on. Yeah, there was no resetting. It's either on or off, and the maint. guy mentioned the "possibility" of it tripping. I think it's bs. So, I'm thinking deliberately turning it off...saving the marina $$$, a motivation unto itself. They have no motivation, as far as my boat is concerned. The guy across the walk from me is power hog many times over by comparison. To turn the breaker off requires a finger to push on one side of the breaker toggle handle. Coat that side with greasepencil lightly so it's not very evident. Make the coat smooth so we can see that fingerprint of the SOB that's flipping the breaker on you. That will let use at least see "SOMEONE" is flipping it off. Office supply places also have a permanent staining red ink that won't wash off. It's available in non-drying printer's ink like they put on a press with a roller. It takes months to "dry". You could coat the toggle with that then casually watch marina people's fingers for the indelible red stain.... I would do this, but I'll just end up with a red finger. LOL I was thinking of getting a lock for the flip up cover, but I don't think the marina would like that too much. I'm going to talk to my neighbor and see if I can use his A/C connection for a while. He doesn't have anything plugged in anyway. His switch was on when I got there... just mine was off. For the next couple of weeks, I asked the maint. guy to be kind enough to check it from time to time, which he agreed to do. They don't have much interest in having someone's bilge pump fail after a rain and end up with a boat on the bottom. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "Larry" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in easolutions: either someone has been deliberately turning off the A/C (not necessarily maliciously) or something in the box is tripping the switch When a breaker trips from overcurrent, it needs to be "reset" by pushing it into the off position, or pushing a popout button on some breakers. You talk as if the breaker has just been switched off as you said nothing about having to reset the breaker before turning it on. Yeah, there was no resetting. It's either on or off, and the maint. guy mentioned the "possibility" of it tripping. I think it's bs. So, I'm thinking deliberately turning it off...saving the marina $$$, a motivation unto itself. They have no motivation, as far as my boat is concerned. The guy across the walk from me is power hog many times over by comparison. To turn the breaker off requires a finger to push on one side of the breaker toggle handle. Coat that side with greasepencil lightly so it's not very evident. Make the coat smooth so we can see that fingerprint of the SOB that's flipping the breaker on you. That will let use at least see "SOMEONE" is flipping it off. Office supply places also have a permanent staining red ink that won't wash off. It's available in non-drying printer's ink like they put on a press with a roller. It takes months to "dry". You could coat the toggle with that then casually watch marina people's fingers for the indelible red stain.... I would do this, but I'll just end up with a red finger. LOL I was thinking of getting a lock for the flip up cover, but I don't think the marina would like that too much. I'm going to talk to my neighbor and see if I can use his A/C connection for a while. He doesn't have anything plugged in anyway. His switch was on when I got there... just mine was off. For the next couple of weeks, I asked the maint. guy to be kind enough to check it from time to time, which he agreed to do. They don't have much interest in having someone's bilge pump fail after a rain and end up with a boat on the bottom. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com You can't lock the breaker because it's probably against the law - either firecode or NEC (National Electrical Code). Do you have a GFI circuit? Sometimes they go when a stray ground current appears. Also check to see if the polarity of your circuit and any of your neighbors are reversed. You can do that with one of these: http://shopping.msn.com/prices/3-led...0v-outlet-5-15 They're inexpensive and handy in the home. You can get the cord checked with something called a Megger - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megger One may be available at the marine radio place nearby. If it's none of them then replace the breaker. It costs about $15 bucks and plugs in. If it's not that then someone is throwing your breaker and it's probably someone who doesn't like you for whatever reason. You haven't gotten them ****ed at you at the marina too, have you? Is anyone from SEA docked near you? Hope this helps. Regards, Admiral Momsen |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "Larry" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in easolutions: either someone has been deliberately turning off the A/C (not necessarily maliciously) or something in the box is tripping the switch When a breaker trips from overcurrent, it needs to be "reset" by pushing it into the off position, or pushing a popout button on some breakers. You talk as if the breaker has just been switched off as you said nothing about having to reset the breaker before turning it on. Yeah, there was no resetting. It's either on or off, and the maint. guy mentioned the "possibility" of it tripping. I think it's bs. So, I'm thinking deliberately turning it off...saving the marina $$$, a motivation unto itself. They have no motivation, as far as my boat is concerned. The guy across the walk from me is power hog many times over by comparison. To turn the breaker off requires a finger to push on one side of the breaker toggle handle. Coat that side with greasepencil lightly so it's not very evident. Make the coat smooth so we can see that fingerprint of the SOB that's flipping the breaker on you. That will let use at least see "SOMEONE" is flipping it off. Office supply places also have a permanent staining red ink that won't wash off. It's available in non-drying printer's ink like they put on a press with a roller. It takes months to "dry". You could coat the toggle with that then casually watch marina people's fingers for the indelible red stain.... I would do this, but I'll just end up with a red finger. LOL I was thinking of getting a lock for the flip up cover, but I don't think the marina would like that too much. I'm going to talk to my neighbor and see if I can use his A/C connection for a while. He doesn't have anything plugged in anyway. His switch was on when I got there... just mine was off. For the next couple of weeks, I asked the maint. guy to be kind enough to check it from time to time, which he agreed to do. They don't have much interest in having someone's bilge pump fail after a rain and end up with a boat on the bottom. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com We had an issue with AC problems at our marina. When the demand was high, certain 110v items wouldn't work or would work right - seems the power thinned out to the rest of the boats on our circuit. Obviously I'm not an electrician. I might suspect the power hog guy you mentioned. Maybe his ceramic heaters won't work will the wifes curling iron was plugged in and he decides your boat doesn't need the power. What about putting a lock on the box for just a few days? If it's tripped when you open it you'll know. |
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ng.com: We had an issue with AC problems at our marina. When the demand was high, certain 110v items wouldn't work or would work right - seems the power thinned out to the rest of the boats on our circuit. Obviously I'm not an electrician. That sounds like a loose neutral connection. That forces the current from one load going into the neutral bus to go out to the other phase of the 240 through the loads on the other side of neutral. When something switches off on the other phase, your side loses voltage because they are in series across 240VAC. When a motor starts on one side, the other side bears the brunt of most of the 240VAC as the motor is drawing very heavy current. This will blow out anything on the side opposite the starting motor with overvoltage...lights blink very bright, fuses in electronics blow en masse trying to protect their hosts. Loose neutral is very dangerous for everything hooked up. Any time you see lights suddenly get BRIGHTER for an instant it's almost always loose neutral connections to the power grid. |
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"mmc" wrote in message
ng.com... "Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "Larry" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in easolutions: either someone has been deliberately turning off the A/C (not necessarily maliciously) or something in the box is tripping the switch When a breaker trips from overcurrent, it needs to be "reset" by pushing it into the off position, or pushing a popout button on some breakers. You talk as if the breaker has just been switched off as you said nothing about having to reset the breaker before turning it on. Yeah, there was no resetting. It's either on or off, and the maint. guy mentioned the "possibility" of it tripping. I think it's bs. So, I'm thinking deliberately turning it off...saving the marina $$$, a motivation unto itself. They have no motivation, as far as my boat is concerned. The guy across the walk from me is power hog many times over by comparison. To turn the breaker off requires a finger to push on one side of the breaker toggle handle. Coat that side with greasepencil lightly so it's not very evident. Make the coat smooth so we can see that fingerprint of the SOB that's flipping the breaker on you. That will let use at least see "SOMEONE" is flipping it off. Office supply places also have a permanent staining red ink that won't wash off. It's available in non-drying printer's ink like they put on a press with a roller. It takes months to "dry". You could coat the toggle with that then casually watch marina people's fingers for the indelible red stain.... I would do this, but I'll just end up with a red finger. LOL I was thinking of getting a lock for the flip up cover, but I don't think the marina would like that too much. I'm going to talk to my neighbor and see if I can use his A/C connection for a while. He doesn't have anything plugged in anyway. His switch was on when I got there... just mine was off. For the next couple of weeks, I asked the maint. guy to be kind enough to check it from time to time, which he agreed to do. They don't have much interest in having someone's bilge pump fail after a rain and end up with a boat on the bottom. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com We had an issue with AC problems at our marina. When the demand was high, certain 110v items wouldn't work or would work right - seems the power thinned out to the rest of the boats on our circuit. Obviously I'm not an electrician. I might suspect the power hog guy you mentioned. Maybe his ceramic heaters won't work will the wifes curling iron was plugged in and he decides your boat doesn't need the power. What about putting a lock on the box for just a few days? If it's tripped when you open it you'll know. It would be a nice thought, but I don't believe the marina would allow a lock, given the potential hazard. I have a call into my neighbor... apparently my other neighbor saw him working on his boat lately. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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