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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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I've recently had an interesting, perplexing, and disturbing situation
come up. I connect my boat in the usual way to the dock box supplied A/C.
It can easily sit for a week (without me visiting) or more during the
colder months here, especially during the holiday season between late
November and early January.

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There's no mystery. Somebody is shutting the switch off because Gaynze is
a condo commando and his demeanor at the dock is likely no different than
his demeanor in his neighborhood. Somebody is hoping his boat is really
really leaky and might sink without an operational bilge pump.

Ask yourself this question: Who in their right mind would want a chronic
complainer like Gaynze on their dock? It's a wonder he hasn't complained
to the power company demanding they remove the unsightly outlets, switches
and wires.

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I wouldn't be so quick to turn the breaker back on without venting out the
bilge and boat first. Any gas fume build up plus a faulty sparking circuit
on board may send Jonathan a couple of hundred feet into the air.

Maybe upgrade the circuit breaker to an arc detection type.

If you want to catch the guy try this:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...quest id=4437

The pictures taken by these are very good unlike the cheapo webcams.

After you catch the guy at the boat you can use it at home.


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Go get a 12V relay, a 12V Power supply and a loud 12V lower current piezo.
(Actually... you can use any power supply as long as the relay matches the
power supply specs)

Wire the Piezo to go off when the AC power to the boat is OFF. (you do
this by wiring the relay to normally CLOSED and use the power supply to keep
the relay OPEN or off by hooking up the PS to the relay coil. You wire the
boats 12V battery through a tiny breaker, through the relay switches NC and
common to the piezo)

So... When the shore power is unhooked and the genset is off the piezo horn
makes a nice annoying sound until someone turns it back on. If someone is
doing this on purpose, then it may scare them... if not, somone on the dock
may notice when the noise comes on and help you figure it out.

You also may want to notify the boats around you of the new alarm and how to
fix it by turning on your breaker.

I also like the Deer camera idea to catch the guy... my friend caught a
serial "car-keyer" with one...




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Go get a 12V relay, a 12V Power supply and a loud 12V lower current piezo.
(Actually... you can use any power supply as long as the relay matches the
power supply specs)

Wire the Piezo to go off when the AC power to the boat is OFF. (you do
this by wiring the relay to normally CLOSED and use the power supply to
keep the relay OPEN or off by hooking up the PS to the relay coil. You
wire the boats 12V battery through a tiny breaker, through the relay
switches NC and common to the piezo)

So... When the shore power is unhooked and the genset is off the piezo
horn makes a nice annoying sound until someone turns it back on. If
someone is doing this on purpose, then it may scare them... if not, somone
on the dock may notice when the noise comes on and help you figure it out.

You also may want to notify the boats around you of the new alarm and how
to fix it by turning on your breaker.

I also like the Deer camera idea to catch the guy... my friend caught a
serial "car-keyer" with one...


Nice suggestion. The small piezo would be easy to rig, and I have the
contact info for all but one neighbor.


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In the last month, I've arrived at the dock to find that the dock box
switch in the off position three times. The first time I chalked it up to
me forgetting to switch it on when I arrived back at the slip. The second
time to my neighbor perhaps switching it off by mistake. However, the
third time I did some checking. My neighbor didn't do it (hasn't been to
his boat in over a month), the marina hasn't been working on the docks
(check with the maintenance guy), and I haven't been there to forget
(unless I forgot going, which is unlikely LOL).


So... talked to the neighbor who I didn't talk to originally. Seems he was
doing work on his boat, and in the process discovered that the second
receptacle on his box wasn't working, so he used mine (it was more
convenient, because it's located on the inside vs. my other neighbor's which
is on the water side). No problem with that. Unfortunately, even though he
reattached my cord, he didn't flip the switch. Even better, he's pretty
certain that he did this maneuver twice, separated by a couple of weeks. :-)

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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In the last month, I've arrived at the dock to find that the dock box
switch in the off position three times. The first time I chalked it up to
me forgetting to switch it on when I arrived back at the slip. The second
time to my neighbor perhaps switching it off by mistake. However, the
third time I did some checking. My neighbor didn't do it (hasn't been to
his boat in over a month), the marina hasn't been working on the docks
(check with the maintenance guy), and I haven't been there to forget
(unless I forgot going, which is unlikely LOL).


So... talked to the neighbor who I didn't talk to originally. Seems he was
doing work on his boat, and in the process discovered that the second
receptacle on his box wasn't working, so he used mine (it was more
convenient, because it's located on the inside vs. my other neighbor's
which is on the water side). No problem with that. Unfortunately, even
though he reattached my cord, he didn't flip the switch. Even better, he's
pretty certain that he did this maneuver twice, separated by a couple of
weeks. :-)

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Keel haul 'im!




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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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In the last month, I've arrived at the dock to find that the dock box
switch in the off position three times. The first time I chalked it up
to me forgetting to switch it on when I arrived back at the slip. The
second time to my neighbor perhaps switching it off by mistake. However,
the third time I did some checking. My neighbor didn't do it (hasn't
been to his boat in over a month), the marina hasn't been working on the
docks (check with the maintenance guy), and I haven't been there to
forget (unless I forgot going, which is unlikely LOL).


So... talked to the neighbor who I didn't talk to originally. Seems he
was doing work on his boat, and in the process discovered that the second
receptacle on his box wasn't working, so he used mine (it was more
convenient, because it's located on the inside vs. my other neighbor's
which is on the water side). No problem with that. Unfortunately, even
though he reattached my cord, he didn't flip the switch. Even better,
he's pretty certain that he did this maneuver twice, separated by a
couple of weeks. :-)

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Keel haul 'im!



I'm actually more po'd about the maint. guy claiming everything was fine
with the dock box. Ok, mine was fine, but the one next door isn't.


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I'm actually more po'd about the maint. guy claiming everything was

fine
with the dock box. Ok, mine was fine, but the one next door isn't.




Just call in the most expensive, and largest electrical contractor in
town and tell him to fix the dock problem. Turn in his bill you paid
with next month's rent check, duly deducting his bill from your total.

Unresponsive *******s to serious safety issues that threaten your
property, such as defective electrical infrastructure, are not to be
tolerated.

I got tossed out of my trailer park over electrical issues the power
company referred to the park owners to correct. Nothing happened in two
months, so I called in an electrical contractor and paid him to fix it,
which he did, very professionally. When I turned in his bill as partial
payment for my lot rent is when the trouble started. I asked for a
formal eviction so I could take their sorry asses to court. The day
before the court date, I got a call from his attorney saying he had
accepted my payment for the month's rental of my lot, minus the
electrical charges, I'm sure because once I called in the professional
electrical contractor to outline the dangerous situation the *******
decided to leave hanging out, the judge might have arrested his ass
right in the court room, once we started talking about the 230VAC laying
out 3' off the ground where the CHILDREN could get KILLED. I never
heard another thing of it, and don't expect to....

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"Capt. JG" wrote in
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I'm actually more po'd about the maint. guy claiming everything was

fine
with the dock box. Ok, mine was fine, but the one next door isn't.




Just call in the most expensive, and largest electrical contractor in
town and tell him to fix the dock problem. Turn in his bill you paid
with next month's rent check, duly deducting his bill from your total.

Unresponsive *******s to serious safety issues that threaten your
property, such as defective electrical infrastructure, are not to be
tolerated.

I got tossed out of my trailer park over electrical issues the power
company referred to the park owners to correct. Nothing happened in two
months, so I called in an electrical contractor and paid him to fix it,
which he did, very professionally. When I turned in his bill as partial
payment for my lot rent is when the trouble started. I asked for a
formal eviction so I could take their sorry asses to court. The day
before the court date, I got a call from his attorney saying he had
accepted my payment for the month's rental of my lot, minus the
electrical charges, I'm sure because once I called in the professional
electrical contractor to outline the dangerous situation the *******
decided to leave hanging out, the judge might have arrested his ass
right in the court room, once we started talking about the 230VAC laying
out 3' off the ground where the CHILDREN could get KILLED. I never
heard another thing of it, and don't expect to....



I think they know what's going on at this point. No need to over-react.
They're good people.


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