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Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam May 27th 04 05:38 PM

Unconditionally stable sailboats
 
On 27 May 2004 14:48:59 GMT, something compelled
(JAXAshby), to say:

steve dan, you missed the irony of the statement. chickensquat guys blame "the
wife" for the fear, never taking responsibility for themself.


If some guys are afraid of the water, and blame the wife, it does
not logically follow that *all* guys who blame their wives are
afraid of the water.

No, really. You could look it up.

Jeff Morris May 27th 04 07:23 PM

Unconditionally stable sailboats
 
"Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam" wrote in message
...
On 27 May 2004 14:48:59 GMT, something compelled
(JAXAshby), to say:

steve dan, you missed the irony of the statement. chickensquat guys blame

"the
wife" for the fear, never taking responsibility for themself.


If some guys are afraid of the water, and blame the wife, it does
not logically follow that *all* guys who blame their wives are
afraid of the water.

No, really. You could look it up.


Actually, the only person here that claims his wife is afraid of boats is Jax.






JAXAshby May 28th 04 04:39 AM

Unconditionally stable sailboats
 
Cruising cats are only marginally faster than cruising mono's,

Marginally? Perhaps - but its often a 25% margin. Sometimes 50%.


and often it is -10% or -25%. cats point for squat, meaning they go best on a
beam reach.

On a beam reach, cats do fine. unless, they are loaded for cruising.

JAXAshby May 28th 04 04:42 AM

Unconditionally stable sailboats
 
and cats are not
safe in stormy seas.


How so? The record says otherwise.


no, it doesn't. very few cats attempt to sail where storms might occur. there
is agood reason for this.

in sailing areas where storms are a potential, few cats sail. Off those that
do, a higher % turn upside down than mono's. which out number cats by two
orders of magnitude or great.


JAXAshby May 28th 04 04:44 AM

Unconditionally stable sailboats
 
cruising cats are better suited for coastal cruising, and
offshore work thoroughly planned around weather.


You can say that about lots of boats


sure, hunters, coronado's, west wight potters, grampians, hobie cats,
macgregors (maybe), c&c's, etc.

JAXAshby May 28th 04 04:45 AM

Unconditionally stable sailboats
 
a Prout - 5000
built, hundreds circumnavigations,


hundred's, eh?

JAXAshby May 28th 04 04:46 AM

Unconditionally stable sailboats
 
cats can be tipped over by wind.

But, in fact, its only happened a few times to a modern cruising cat.


most cat owners are not as stupid as cat owners in the past. some are, of
course, but most learned from prior experience.

JAXAshby May 28th 04 04:49 AM

Unconditionally stable sailboats
 
cruising mono's can't.

That isn't really so. But certainly any weather that has the capability to
flip
a cat could also roll or sink a mono.


it certain is so. wind, and wind alone, can flip a cat. wind can not flip a
mono.

In fact, *each* degree of heel on a cat requires _less_ wind than the previous
degree of heel. cat turn upside down at heel anglesof about 30*.

cats are best suited for coastal cruising and voyages well planned around
weather.

JAXAshby May 28th 04 04:50 AM

Unconditionally stable sailboats
 
If some guys are afraid of the water, and blame the wife, it does
not logically follow that *all* guys who blame their wives are
afraid of the water.


yes it does.

guys who have wives afraid of the water are too embarrassed about it to do
anything buy mumble.

Jeff Morris May 28th 04 12:00 PM

Unconditionally stable sailboats
 
"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
and cats are not
safe in stormy seas.


How so? The record says otherwise.


no, it doesn't. very few cats attempt to sail where storms might occur.

there
is agood reason for this.

in sailing areas where storms are a potential, few cats sail. Off those that
do, a higher % turn upside down than mono's. which out number cats by two
orders of magnitude or great.


Given that there's only been about 4 cruising cat capsizes in the last 20 years,
its a little hard to talk about "higher %"

How many monos have sunk in the last 20 years?







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