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What specific signs of wear am I looking for in the swages of the
standing rigging? I check for any mechanical damage I can see, especially cracks. Are there other things to look for? There usually is slight surface rust on the stainless, which I scrub off w/ WD40 to check for cracks. Thanks! Chris |
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Run your hand over the wire. It should be perfectly round but if there
is a failure, even inside the swage, sometimes the wire distorts. Dye testing is always a good idea. -- Tom. |
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![]() How does dye testing work? Thanks! |
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![]() How does dye testing work? Thanks! |
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How does dye testing work? Thanks! Probably not too well on cables. The dye gets between the strands and messes up the mess. Use TOWEL for the first pass? Not your hand... |
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Chris wrote:
What specific signs of wear am I looking for in the swages of the standing rigging? I check for any mechanical damage I can see, especially cracks. Are there other things to look for? There usually is slight surface rust on the stainless, which I scrub off w/ WD40 to check for cracks. Cracks are about all you can see. If you want a real inspection you need to use a dye process which shows small cracks better. |
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![]() "Chris" wrote in message oups.com... So how does this dye test work? Chris - You don't seem to be getting an answer to your question. Cracks in welds etc are often better seen after treatment with a dye penetrant. This is sometimes sprayed on. have a look at this Magnaflux web site then do your own search. http://www.magnaflux.com/index.asp I worked as a yacht rigger for many years. I consulted with metallurgical engineers who also happened to be sailors. They said that by the time a dye penetrant would help, it was too late! The problem is that the cracks start from inside the swage and work their way outwards. We confirmed this by cutting through swages that shows small external cracks and making a polished section - There were many more cracks that were not visible but which we could see under a powerful microscope. The cracks start at a crevice where the swage has not fully surrounded a wire strand. At this point, the stainless steel is under stress from swaging and there are often chlorides present and a lack of oxygen. Apparently these are ideal conditions for Chloride Stress cracking to occur. We found that the only way we could delay cracking, was to seal the fitting when we made the swage. We sometimes did this by adding a small amount of epoxy to the wire near the end of the swage. The heat from the swaging process caused the epoxy to run and fill all the voids and also make a neat bead at the end of the swage. Others have used bees wax, nail polish and other materials to seal the swages so as to keep the salt atmosphere out. So far as inspection is concerned, we would clean up the swages using fine emery paper or synthetic cleaning pads. We would then look at the fitting through a strong magnifying glass. In particular, look at the edges of the swage where the wire enters - that is where cracks often start. Since there is really no good way to inspect, best solution is to replace rigging on a regular basis - In freshwater, this may not be necessary - the wire likely will fail first due to fatigue. In salt water, about every 7 to 10 years depending on temperature of area should be OK. I have been out of the business for some time, so if anyone knows better, please feel free to correct the above! Hope this helps! |
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Thanks! That was exactly the information
and pointers I was looking for. Chris GBM wrote: "Chris" wrote in message oups.com... So how does this dye test work? Chris - You don't seem to be getting an answer to your question. Cracks in welds etc are often better seen after treatment with a dye penetrant. This is sometimes sprayed on. have a look at this Magnaflux web site then do your own search. http://www.magnaflux.com/index.asp I worked as a yacht rigger for many years. I consulted with metallurgical engineers who also happened to be sailors. They said that by the time a dye penetrant would help, it was too late! The problem is that the cracks start from inside the swage and work their way outwards. We confirmed this by cutting through swages that shows small external cracks and making a polished section - There were many more cracks that were not visible but which we could see under a powerful microscope. The cracks start at a crevice where the swage has not fully surrounded a wire strand. At this point, the stainless steel is under stress from swaging and there are often chlorides present and a lack of oxygen. Apparently these are ideal conditions for Chloride Stress cracking to occur. We found that the only way we could delay cracking, was to seal the fitting when we made the swage. We sometimes did this by adding a small amount of epoxy to the wire near the end of the swage. The heat from the swaging process caused the epoxy to run and fill all the voids and also make a neat bead at the end of the swage. Others have used bees wax, nail polish and other materials to seal the swages so as to keep the salt atmosphere out. So far as inspection is concerned, we would clean up the swages using fine emery paper or synthetic cleaning pads. We would then look at the fitting through a strong magnifying glass. In particular, look at the edges of the swage where the wire enters - that is where cracks often start. Since there is really no good way to inspect, best solution is to replace rigging on a regular basis - In freshwater, this may not be necessary - the wire likely will fail first due to fatigue. In salt water, about every 7 to 10 years depending on temperature of area should be OK. I have been out of the business for some time, so if anyone knows better, please feel free to correct the above! Hope this helps! |
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