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![]() "cavelamb" wrote Just a suspicion, but it seems to me that the problem here is a result of the swaging process itself. When the swage is squeezed, there should be uneven compression which would cause the material to yield unevenly - leading to rather high localized stress concentrations. In-service vibration, over time, should lead to exactly the kind of cracks described by GBM. FWIW, for highly stressed aircraft cables, the terminals (ends) are *Rolled* rather than squoze... Richard Could be, but experience shows that this type of failure does not occur in fresh water. The experts advise that it is the presence of chlorides in crevices with an oxygen deficient atmosphere and stress that cause the failure. The whole swage and the wire strands are stressed to various degrees. GBM |
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![]() "noexpert" wrote in message ... Are solid stainless steel rods any less vulnerable? What alloy is used for major standing rigging; there must be some less prone to chloride/stress attack, or? I worked with some higher than 316 plus extra titanium alloy(32?) for seawater boiler; it was a much better choice than regular 316. I am not sure if this alloy is being offered in steel rope shape. Any one knows more about it? thanks Navtec rod rigging uses an alloy they call "Nitronic". It is supposed to be much more resistant to corrosion than the alloys commonly used in wire rigging and turnbuckles. |
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I remember the collapse of a public pool ceiling killing a number of peoples
in switzerland some years ago. The hang up ceiling was supported by hidden 304 type (18-8) S-hooks behind and out of sight for inspection. I recall the report stating that the chloride laden pool air and humidity exposed the hooks causing this intercristaline corrosion leading to sudden failure to support loads. As I understand the engineering world in Europe took note and better suited s/s alloys are utilised now. If rigging for ocean going boats is still made from 304, I think it amounts to criminal negligence to continue to equip boots with these essential structural members in a maritime environment where plenty of chloride (salt) are present. Having worked with both 304 , 316 and others the price difference of those different alloys were not really the mainconcern but mainly to get the right stock for the task on hand. I am not clear what the nitronic s/s alloy is made of, but if it is more suitable why bother with 304 at all. |
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