Ditto the "Lavac" recommendation. I would have no other. Well, I'd go for a
composting head if I didn't need to carry mountains of peat moss and it fit
the same space as the Lavac, but such a creature doesn't exist.

--
Karin Conover-Lewis
Fair and Balanced since 1959
klc dot lewis at centurytel dot net


"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
nk.net...
"Ytter" writes:

I am in a process of refitting my head/shower area on my sailboat.
I want to change head for something reliable,manual,not terribly
expensive.
snip

Lavac, it has no equal, IMHO.


--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the
Southland)
Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures

Karin Conover-Lewis wrote:
Ditto the "Lavac" recommendation. I would have no other. Well, I'd go for a
composting head if I didn't need to carry mountains of peat moss and it fit
the same space as the Lavac, but such a creature doesn't exist.

Composting toilets also need power 24/7, Karin, to run the blower and
evaporator. Also a means of draining off liquids that exceed what can be
evaporated, which in coastal waters means some kind of container for
'em...'cuz they can't legally be drained overboard. Composter are an
alternative worth considering on a large powerboat on inland "no
discharge" waters, but IMO are totally impractical on any boat in
coastal waters.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

Peggy,
Have you ever heard of the following setup:

The waste tank is ABOVE the water line with a bottom drain to a seacock.
There is a second drain from the top of the tank to the deck pumpout.
The head pumps up to the top of the tank.
Close the seacock in protected water to keep the bad stuff aboard and then
open the seacock when you get out.When offshore, simply leave the seacock
open to drain as you go (so to speak).

Real simple if you have the freeboard.
I wouldn't worry about carrying the weight so high because the tank would
always be empty out to sea.

--
Dennis Gibbons
dkgibbons at optonline dot net
"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...
Karin Conover-Lewis wrote:
Ditto the "Lavac" recommendation. I would have no other. Well, I'd go
for a
composting head if I didn't need to carry mountains of peat moss and it
fit
the same space as the Lavac, but such a creature doesn't exist.

Composting toilets also need power 24/7, Karin, to run the blower and
evaporator. Also a means of draining off liquids that exceed what can be
evaporated, which in coastal waters means some kind of container for
'em...'cuz they can't legally be drained overboard. Composter are an
alternative worth considering on a large powerboat on inland "no
discharge" waters, but IMO are totally impractical on any boat in
coastal waters.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

Peggy -- I think SunMar makes one that doesn't need any power, but they do
require that "excess fluid drainage" that you mention. Some of those that
require power claim to be able to dry the "fluid" sufficiently not to
actually use the overflow under lower usage (one or two people full-time),
but they're also way too big for my boat.

--
Karin Conover-Lewis
Fair and Balanced since 1959
klc dot lewis at centurytel dot net


"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...
Karin Conover-Lewis wrote:
Ditto the "Lavac" recommendation. I would have no other. Well, I'd go
for a
composting head if I didn't need to carry mountains of peat moss and it
fit
the same space as the Lavac, but such a creature doesn't exist.

Composting toilets also need power 24/7, Karin, to run the blower and
evaporator. Also a means of draining off liquids that exceed what can be
evaporated, which in coastal waters means some kind of container for
'em...'cuz they can't legally be drained overboard. Composter are an
alternative worth considering on a large powerboat on inland "no
discharge" waters, but IMO are totally impractical on any boat in
coastal waters.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

If everything on my boat worked as well as the Lavac, I would sail a lot
more.

--
Dennis Gibbons
S/V Dark Lady
CN35-207
dkgibbons at optonline dot net
"Karin Conover-Lewis" wrote in message
news
Ditto the "Lavac" recommendation. I would have no other. Well, I'd go for
a
composting head if I didn't need to carry mountains of peat moss and it
fit
the same space as the Lavac, but such a creature doesn't exist.

--
Karin Conover-Lewis
Fair and Balanced since 1959
klc dot lewis at centurytel dot net


"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
nk.net...
"Ytter" writes:

I am in a process of refitting my head/shower area on my sailboat.
I want to change head for something reliable,manual,not terribly
expensive.
snip

Lavac, it has no equal, IMHO.


--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the
Southland)
Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures

Jere Lull wrote:
I am in a process of refitting my head/shower area on my sailboat.
I want to change head for something reliable,manual,not terribly
expensive.I'm thinking of Raritan's Cricket...

We got one a few years back and like it, but it is a bit different than
the Compact it replaced and the Pars we've used on other boats.

Yep...instead of the piston/cylinder pump sitting beside the bowl, the
Cricket has a diaphragm pump located directly below the bowl...no moving
parts.

If we
had a lot of guests, I think I'd prefer the PH or Compact, but for the
two of us, the Cricket has definite advantages. Check the cost of a
rebuild kit.

It's not really a rebuild kit, it's a whole new pump except for the
housing. Unlike piston/cylinder pumps, the Cricket doesn't have any
seals, o-rings, gaskets etc--the parts in the usual "rebuild kit"...so
it doesn't require "rebuilding" in the usual sense. In fact, it doesn't
even need lubrication. A kit is needed only as often as any other toilet
would need a whole new pump assembly. So the price for it should really
be compared to the prices of a new pump assemblies for other toilets,
not rebuild kits.
--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

On Tue, 30 Mar 04, 8:47am, Peggie wrote:
A kit is needed only as often as any other toilet
would need a whole new pump assembly.

How often might that be? ... say, for an average weekender with
minimal usage. And wouldn't something like that be better for an "over
the side" guy instead of a head with gaskets, o-rings, seals etc that
fail from lack of use? Since my divorce, my head sees minimal use and
seems to fail only when a guest needs it. ... from lack of use rather
than wearing out.
Rick

lid wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 04, 8:47am, Peggie wrote:

A kit is needed only as often as any other toilet
would need a whole new pump assembly.


How often might that be? ... say, for an average weekender with
minimal usage.

Oh..maybe about every 10 years or so..

Wouldn't something like that be better for an "over
the side" guy instead of a head with gaskets, o-rings, seals etc that
fail from lack of use?

Maybe...till he gets a girlfriend...


Since my divorce, my head sees minimal use and
seems to fail only when a guest needs it ... from lack of use rather
than wearing out.
I that case, you need to use the lee rail less, use the head more. Your
guests will appreciate it. 'Cuz it's definitely true that lack of use is
harder on anything than constant use.

(Y'all can have all the fun with that one you want to... just remembr
that this is a discussion about BOAT equipment....ok??)


Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

On Wed, 31 Mar 04, 8:15pm, Peggie wrote:
Y'all can have all the fun with that one you want to...

No M'am, I wouldn't touch that one with a ten foot ... uh ... never
mind.

Over and out,
Rick

In article ,
Peggie Hall wrote:

Jere Lull wrote:
We got a Cricket a few years back and like it, but it is a bit
different than the Compact it replaced and the Pars we've used on
other boats.

Yep...instead of the piston/cylinder pump sitting beside the bowl, the
Cricket has a diaphragm pump located directly below the bowl...no moving
parts.

If we had a lot of guests, I think I'd prefer the PH or Compact,
but for the two of us, the Cricket has definite advantages. Check
the cost of a rebuild kit.

It's not really a rebuild kit, it's a whole new pump except for the
housing. Unlike piston/cylinder pumps, the Cricket doesn't have any
seals, o-rings, gaskets etc--the parts in the usual "rebuild
kit"...so it doesn't require "rebuilding" in the usual sense. In
fact, it doesn't even need lubrication. A kit is needed only as often
as any other toilet would need a whole new pump assembly. So the
price for it should really be compared to the prices of a new pump
assemblies for other toilets, not rebuild kits.

Oh! I didn't know that. That makes me feel better. It's simplicity was a
primary draw. I had gotten tired of lubing and rebuilding every
couple-three years. Guess I should get that kit and vacuum pack it.

It sure seems to have trouble less often, though it took a while to
learn to take long, slow, full-length strokes every time.

If only the wet/dry switch weren't in such an inconvenient location.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/