On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 16:39:04 +0000, Matt Colie wrote:

Hey Lloyd,

If you want it to sound just like that, you could always hide and electric drive
(like the gondolas at Venice-Las Vegas) and also hide an MP3 player with an amp
and a couple of huge speakers in the "engine box".

I just could not pass up the chance to be a smart-ass. thanks
Matt Colie


My Lady already beat you to it weeks ago - she suggested I use my existing Tin
Boat with the 9.9 ob and get a CD that went pooketa-pooketa-pooketa...

Lloyd

"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:37:06 +0000, Lloyd Sumpter wrote:



Hi,



Any suggestions on where I might look for an old, cheap, 5-10hp diesel

suitable for an inboard engine? Maybe a tractor engine, or "stationary"...? Any

thoughts?



Lloyd



Thanks to all who replied! It's great to know others share my dreams of

designs based on feel and sound rather than performance.



But Reality has set in: Even if I use a Briggs&Stratton, I'll be fracturing many

laws here in Canada. I'd need a Hull Ident No, Conformity Plate (Conform? not

likely!), Capacity plate, and since it's an inboard, a fire extinguisher,

approved inboard fuel tank, explosion-proof electrics (Yeah - how do you

eliminate the spark on a B&S magneto?). Geez, the fees alone would cost me more

than the boat!

Screw them, build it anyway and tell them it's an old boat that
predates their requirements if you ever get asked.

Peter Wiley

That wav file sounds like a one cylinder SABB, large flywheel, can be hand
started, around 8 horsepower. The Volvo MD1 and MD1A were very similar. Many
are being replaced due to lack of available parts.

For example I bought a MD1 to put in a 43 year old sailboat I am rebuilding. It
was frozen from sitting for several years and though it looks to be in pretty
good shape from the external appearance, I couldn't get it unstuck by turning
the flywheel. So I resigned myself to tearing apart the engine. That's when I
discovered how difficult it was to get parts. After a lot of searching and
calling I got a head gasket - cost was $120!

Then I stumbled on a running Yanmar YSB8G in fairly good shape from a
repower job (owner went from 8 to 16 hp for a 29 footer) for a price I
couldn't refuse. And parts are still readily available.

So now I have 2 diesels and am wondering what to do with the Volvo MD1. I would
like to get it running some day and build a boat for it (thought about a 16'-18'
catboat) but I realize that it will be many years if ever before I get the time
to do it.

JJ

On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 18:52:08 -0800, "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote:

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:37:06 +0000, Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

Hi,

Any suggestions on where I might look for an old, cheap, 5-10hp diesel
suitable for an inboard engine? Maybe a tractor engine, or "stationary"...? Any
thoughts?

Lloyd

Thanks to all who replied! It's great to know others share my dreams of
designs based on feel and sound rather than performance.

But Reality has set in: Even if I use a Briggs&Stratton, I'll be fracturing many
laws here in Canada. I'd need a Hull Ident No, Conformity Plate (Conform? not
likely!), Capacity plate, and since it's an inboard, a fire extinguisher,
approved inboard fuel tank, explosion-proof electrics (Yeah - how do you
eliminate the spark on a B&S magneto?). Geez, the fees alone would cost me more
than the boat!

Ahhh....for those bygone days when the Gov't wasn't "taking care" of you...My
dad had a wooden boat (10ft?) with a 1 1/2hp Lawson (Kinda like a B&S), The
engine outlasted the boat, and neither one blew up, despite not having any HIN,
plates, or approvals.

But those old Listers (and the Indian clones, the Listeroids) sure look and
sound nice! (BTW, the sound bite was a 1-cyl 6hp Lister)

Lloyd - Off to build a 1 1/2 Sheet fishing pram...

James Johnson
remove the "dot" from after sail in email address to reply

Can anyone point to marine conversions / parts / info for small
automotive diesels such as VW or Peugot??

--
Regards, Terry King ...In The Woods In Vermont

The one who Dies With The Most Parts LOSES!! What do you need?

I've done an engine aero conversion, and there is more to it than
meets the eye, so I am leery.
But thinking on your suggestion, we are talking cooling and we are
talking forward/reverse. Think you could handle those?
If you can, VW would be very, very promising.
Or howz about a Mercedes?

Brian W

On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 12:33:06 -0500, Terry King
wrote:

Can anyone point to marine conversions / parts / info for small
automotive diesels such as VW or Peugot??

Hi Brian,

I've done conversions on automobile V-8's and run them for years..

I have a 350 GM in the same boat I built in 1978 (25th anniversary last
Summer on Lake Champlain).

The 'conventional' conversion adds exhaust manifolds, water
pump/plumbing, flame arrester, drive train solution, and motor mounts.

Since it's been so long since I've done one, and I'm interested in 1 or 2
small diesels for a slower bigger boat, I wonder what people here have
done.

In article ,
says...
I've done an engine aero conversion, and there is more to it than
meets the eye, so I am leery.
But thinking on your suggestion, we are talking cooling and we are
talking forward/reverse. Think you could handle those?
If you can, VW would be very, very promising.
Or howz about a Mercedes?
--
Regards, Terry King ...In The Woods In Vermont

The one who Dies With The Most Parts LOSES!! What do you need?

I am currently repowering a 28' Fiberform. Both of the OMC 302's and
outdrives were junked and the transom holes filled.

A 6.5L diesel from a Suburban is being installed with a single Arneson
surface drive.

I should have it running in a couple more weeks, just waiting for
fabrication of the custom exhaust risers to the Detriot allison turbo.

Paul

"Terry King" wrote in message
.. .
Hi Brian,

I've done conversions on automobile V-8's and run them for years..

I have a 350 GM in the same boat I built in 1978 (25th anniversary last
Summer on Lake Champlain).

The 'conventional' conversion adds exhaust manifolds, water
pump/plumbing, flame arrester, drive train solution, and motor mounts.

Since it's been so long since I've done one, and I'm interested in 1 or 2
small diesels for a slower bigger boat, I wonder what people here have
done.

In article ,
says...
I've done an engine aero conversion, and there is more to it than
meets the eye, so I am leery.
But thinking on your suggestion, we are talking cooling and we are
talking forward/reverse. Think you could handle those?
If you can, VW would be very, very promising.
Or howz about a Mercedes?
--
Regards, Terry King ...In The Woods In Vermont

The one who Dies With The Most Parts LOSES!! What do you need?

Hi Paul,

That's quite a project. I've only seen the surface drive units on high-
powered high-speed boats. Can you point to any photos (maybe yours?) of
a more typical boat installation?

How are you doing reverse? What kind of overall ratio to the prop, and
what size/pitch prop??

I am currently repowering a 28' Fiberform.
A 6.5L diesel from a Suburban is being installed with a single Arneson
surface drive.

--
Regards, Terry King ...In The Woods In Vermont

The one who Dies With The Most Parts LOSES!! What do you need?

"Paul Winchester" wrote in message
news:fuQ2c.138061$4o.178972@attbi_s52...
A 6.5L diesel from a Suburban is being installed with a single Arneson
surface drive.

What year was the 6.5 and was it mechanical injection (i.e. no computer)? I
wanted to convert my suburban from gas to diesel and am looking for which
years were mechanically injected... Also post back with how you make out
there are quite a few readers here that wanted to do the same project. You
are the pioneer... Thanks

mark

I'm building a 22" Sisu lobsterboat with the VW diesel. 53hp
conversion is by a Canadian company Pathfinder Marine. The watercooled
manifold/heat exchanger is made by an english company and the adapter
to fit engine to a hurth or borg warner transmission can be purchased
from Pathfinder. There are used ones around and the engine is the same
as the automotive. they have a larger aluminum oilpan with a longer
pickup tube on the marinized as well. Most are setup with wet exhaust
but I put piping for keel cooled which is better for winter in Maine.
There were a number of yachts which used these for aux power and
they've been around for awhile. The VW has an aluminum head so its not
an engine you ever want to let overheat. Otherwise I think it will be
a very reliable engine which won't be costly to maintain.


Terry King wrote in message ...
Hi Brian,

I've done conversions on automobile V-8's and run them for years..

I have a 350 GM in the same boat I built in 1978 (25th anniversary last
Summer on Lake Champlain).

The 'conventional' conversion adds exhaust manifolds, water
pump/plumbing, flame arrester, drive train solution, and motor mounts.

Since it's been so long since I've done one, and I'm interested in 1 or 2
small diesels for a slower bigger boat, I wonder what people here have
done.

In article ,
says...
I've done an engine aero conversion, and there is more to it than
meets the eye, so I am leery.
But thinking on your suggestion, we are talking cooling and we are
talking forward/reverse. Think you could handle those?
If you can, VW would be very, very promising.
Or howz about a Mercedes?