So, if I take the play, Romeo and Juliet, and change each name in the
script but nothing else I can claim it as my own?




On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 20:12:21 +0100, GK wrote:

I am considering to build a Bruce Roberts 370 D.
I have read some pro´s and contra´s concerning his design.
What is your opinion ?

concerning the prices: My very personal opinion is that
the cutting files for the 370 D (!) for about US$ 8 T are overpriced,
as well as to buy the precut steel for about US$ 30 T, only the steel
precut, not the complete steel caso.

I have an offer from a (professional) shipyard which offers me to build
the caso,
based on the 370 D study plans, for less.
What is your opinion about this ?
Is this possible from the technical point of view ?

Thanks,

Fred

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 07:54:58 -0500, Kevin Brooker
wrote:

So, if I take the play, Romeo and Juliet, and change each name in the
script but nothing else I can claim it as my own?




On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 20:12:21 +0100, GK wrote:

I am considering to build a Bruce Roberts 370 D.
I have read some pro´s and contra´s concerning his design.
What is your opinion ?

concerning the prices: My very personal opinion is that
the cutting files for the 370 D (!) for about US$ 8 T are overpriced,
as well as to buy the precut steel for about US$ 30 T, only the steel
precut, not the complete steel caso.

I have an offer from a (professional) shipyard which offers me to build
the caso,
based on the 370 D study plans, for less.
What is your opinion about this ?
Is this possible from the technical point of view ?

Thanks,

Fred


Here's the next situation:

I wanted to build a canoe. I looked around the internet, and came up
with a number of plans I liked, but didn't want to buy right then. I
ended up taking what I liked from a couple of differant ones, and
building what I wanted in Hulls.

Did I steal the sites ideas?

Next question: If I took the "look and feel" of one boat off a site,
and reproduced it in hulls, without study plans, only dimentions, and
eye-ball shape from a site, is that wrong?

I personally feel my design is MY design, even if inspired by several
other designs.




email: dave-afo at mchsi dot com

please respond in this NG so others
can share your wisdom as well!

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:32:00 GMT, Dave Allyn
wrote:

Next question: If I took the "look and feel" of one boat off a site,
and reproduced it in hulls, without study plans, only dimentions, and
eye-ball shape from a site, is that wrong?

My 2 cents worth is no. All designs are based at least in part on
what has gone before. What you'd be missing of course is the
engineering and/or naval architecture that might have gone into the
original (admittedly not much in a canoe but probably quite a bit in a
well designed larger boat).

You can pretty safely build a one-off boat that is an exact copy of another,
right down to making your own engine and fittings which are all protected by
patent. But if you try to produce more of them to sell then the owners of
the intellectual rights you are violating will sue the heck out of you.

Would it depend on how unique the "look and feel" were?

I don't remember the outcome, but many, many thousands of dollars were spent
on lawyers when Bill Gates copied the "look and feel" of Apple's operating
system.

Roger

http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:32:00 GMT, Dave Allyn
wrote:

Next question: If I took the "look and feel" of one boat off a site,
and reproduced it in hulls, without study plans, only dimentions, and
eye-ball shape from a site, is that wrong?

My 2 cents worth is no. All designs are based at least in part on
what has gone before. What you'd be missing of course is the
engineering and/or naval architecture that might have gone into the
original (admittedly not much in a canoe but probably quite a bit in a
well designed larger boat).

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:45:09 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

Next question: If I took the "look and feel" of one boat off a site,
and reproduced it in hulls, without study plans, only dimentions, and
eye-ball shape from a site, is that wrong?

My 2 cents worth is no. All designs are based at least in part on
what has gone before. What you'd be missing of course is the
engineering and/or naval architecture that might have gone into the
original (admittedly not much in a canoe but probably quite a bit in a
well designed larger boat).

FWIW, the following is an extract from a summary of the much maligned
Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA). Other summaries vary
somewhat. As explained to me, it's the shape of the hull that's
protected, not engineering details. The theory seems to be that the
shape of a hull is so important to the function and appearance of the
vessel that it should be protected over and above the protection
accorded to the plans. IANAL, so further deponent sayeth not. But I
am sure the devil is in the details of the legislation.

"Title V of the DMCA, entitled the Vessel Hull Design Protection Act
(VHDPA), adds a new chapter 13 to Title 17 of the U.S. Code. It
creates a new system for protecting original designs of certain useful
articles that make the article attractive or distinctive in
appearance. For purposes of the VHDPA, “useful articles” are limited
to the hulls (including the decks) of vessels no longer than 200 feet.
A design is protected under the VHDPA as soon as a useful article
embodying the design is made public or a registration for the design
is published. "


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