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Safety glass for boat windows
Someone recently was asking about what material to replace windows with.
That got me thinking today as I got into my '90 YJ Jeep, that the windshield would be a good candidate for the center cabin windows in my Irwin 37. Nice and flat. Its rectangular which I like better than the stream lined profile that's in there now. I'll have to go to the boat to measure if it's long enough. I don't think I would mount it the way it is on the Jeep cause pop out windows are probably not a good feature on a boat. The glass out of the back doors of a panel truck is usually flat and might be a good choice for a windshield. Any reason why I wouldn't want to use auto glass in a boat? Ron |
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Safety glass for boat windows
None that I know of. The hard dodger in my WS32 has auto glass, even on
the curves (rear cab corner windows from an old pickup truck). The PO installed it in Australia and about '82 and it made it back to the west coast with no problems to date. Still cleans up beautifully. Large panels will be weaker, of course, but that's true of any system. Rufus Ron Thornton wrote: Someone recently was asking about what material to replace windows with. That got me thinking today as I got into my '90 YJ Jeep, that the windshield would be a good candidate for the center cabin windows in my Irwin 37. Nice and flat. Its rectangular which I like better than the stream lined profile that's in there now. I'll have to go to the boat to measure if it's long enough. I don't think I would mount it the way it is on the Jeep cause pop out windows are probably not a good feature on a boat. The glass out of the back doors of a panel truck is usually flat and might be a good choice for a windshield. Any reason why I wouldn't want to use auto glass in a boat? Ron |
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Safety glass for boat windows
"Ron Thornton" writes: snip Any reason why I wouldn't want to use auto glass in a boat? snip Possibly might be a problem. Most auto safety glass will shatter into small pieces when hit, leaving a major hole if used on a boat. OTOH, laminated safety glass, while abandoned years ago for automobiles, would simply crack when hit. Might be some sharp shards of glass on the deck, but no major hole for water to enter. Talk to somebody in the glass business. HTH -- Lew S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland) Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures |
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Safety glass for boat windows
Maybe lucite or plexiglass?
Polycarb? |
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Safety glass for boat windows
Tempered safety glass. It breaks in long cracks instead of a zillion little
pieces. This is OK because the windshield is made from two layers of glass, with a layer of mylar in between to hold the mess together when it breaks. Side and rear windows are 'safety glass', which is the stuff that breaks into a zillion little pieces, but have relatively rounded corners in the breaks so that they are not as sharp. Brian -- My boat project: http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass "WaIIy" wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 01:51:41 GMT, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: OTOH, laminated safety glass, while abandoned years ago for automobiles, would simply crack when hit. What kind of glass do they use in windshields on the new cars? |
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Safety glass for boat windows
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 07:12:31 GMT, "Brian D"
sent into the ether: Tempered safety glass. It breaks in long cracks instead of a zillion little pieces. This is OK because the windshield is made from two layers of glass, with a layer of mylar in between to hold the mess together when it breaks. Side and rear windows are 'safety glass', which is the stuff that breaks into a zillion little pieces, but have relatively rounded corners in the breaks so that they are not as sharp. Brian Brian, When did they change tempered glass? Tempered glass breaks into rock salt sized piece and laminated glass, as used in windshields, breaks as you decribe. Easy to mix up the two :} BTW, both are referred to as safety glass. Remove the x for e-mail reply www.outdoorfrontiers.com |
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Safety glass for boat windows
Brian's giving you the correct basic information, but has the terminology
just a bit wrong . It's "tempered" glass that "dices" into a zillion pieces when broken,. It is used for the side windows of automobiles, for shower doors, patio doors, etc. Notably, tempered glass is much stronger against wind load and impact than plain annealed glass. "Laminated" glass, used in windshields, skylights, security doors, etc., contains two or more layers of glass bonded to a plastic interlayer. The glass is usueally annealed, but can also be tempered or heat-treated. See http://www.alumaxbath.com/tech/tgp.htm for tempered glass, and http://www.saflex.com/pages/about/ for laminated glass. Alex "Brian D" wrote in message news:zthxb.120989$Dw6.554305@attbi_s02... Tempered safety glass. It breaks in long cracks instead of a zillion little pieces. This is OK because the windshield is made from two layers of glass, with a layer of mylar in between to hold the mess together when it breaks. Side and rear windows are 'safety glass', which is the stuff that breaks into a zillion little pieces, but have relatively rounded corners in the breaks so that they are not as sharp. Brian -- My boat project: http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass "WaIIy" wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 01:51:41 GMT, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: OTOH, laminated safety glass, while abandoned years ago for automobiles, would simply crack when hit. What kind of glass do they use in windshields on the new cars? |
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"Safety glass" is laminated, and is used in all automobile windshields.
Tempered glass is the stuff that breaks into a million small pieces on heavy impact, and is used in side and back glasses in autos. Safety glass is stocked and can be cut at pretty much any glass shop. Tempered has to be cut to size, then sent to a tempering company for treatment. Safety glass is used in lots of boats. One of the best things you can put in, is a sandwich of two sheets of tempered glass laminated like safety glass. If it DOES break, the lamination keeps all the pieces together. If anyone is interested, I can post a source, but be forewarned, it's EXPENSIVE! "Lew Hodgett" wrote in message hlink.net... "Ron Thornton" writes: snip Any reason why I wouldn't want to use auto glass in a boat? snip Possibly might be a problem. Most auto safety glass will shatter into small pieces when hit, leaving a major hole if used on a boat. OTOH, laminated safety glass, while abandoned years ago for automobiles, would simply crack when hit. Might be some sharp shards of glass on the deck, but no major hole for water to enter. Talk to somebody in the glass business. HTH -- Lew S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland) Visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett for Pictures |
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Safety glass for boat windows
That's not right. Mylar is not the middle layer of safety glass. Tempered is
used in side and back glass, NOT windshields. Safety glass is used in windsheilds so it helps absorb impact. I used to work in the glass industry. "Brian D" wrote in message news:zthxb.120989$Dw6.554305@attbi_s02... Tempered safety glass. It breaks in long cracks instead of a zillion little pieces. This is OK because the windshield is made from two layers of glass, with a layer of mylar in between to hold the mess together when it breaks. Side and rear windows are 'safety glass', which is the stuff that breaks into a zillion little pieces, but have relatively rounded corners in the breaks so that they are not as sharp. Brian -- My boat project: http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass "WaIIy" wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 01:51:41 GMT, "Lew Hodgett" wrote: OTOH, laminated safety glass, while abandoned years ago for automobiles, would simply crack when hit. What kind of glass do they use in windshields on the new cars? |
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