Being an ex USN Sailor, I found this discussion semi interesting about 30
messages ago, but your lack of direct service experience is beginning to
wear on the thread, IMHO.

Is anyone involved in building a CVN? Will it be a "nuke"?

I think I should point out the life expectancy of any CVN is approximately
15 minutes in an encounter with any submarine, including the oldest in
commision.

Maybe y'all should rethink your plans...

Former FTB2 (SS)
US Submarine Service
"We go down for money"

"Gregg Germain" wrote in message
...
In rec.boats.building Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "Charles Talleyrand" wrote:

: :Nah, I don't think that adds up.

: So construct your case for why it doesn't.

: :Finally, I would be suprised if the cost of a CVN with airwing was
dominated by
: :the saleries of the crew. I've always assumed without evidence the
cost was
: :more in parts and mainenence and fuel (for the planes).

: Multiply it out. Rough grab of 7,000 crew. Just paying them amounts
: to over 1/4 billion dollars per year. Now add in the cost manning for
: all of the shore establishment that helps with maintenance and
: such....

yes and just paying them is not, I believe, the major cost these
days. You have health care, various allowances, etc. And as you say
all the suport personnel that are requried (service doctors,
medicines, buildings, paperwork people, billeting people etc).

Now it's true we take better care of our people than they did back
then. But we have a much larger economy as well.


--- Gregg
"Improvise, adapt, overcome."

Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
Phone: (617) 496-1558

In rec.boats.building Fred Williams wrote:
: Being an ex USN Sailor, I found this discussion semi interesting about 30
: messages ago, but your lack of direct service experience is beginning to
: wear on the thread, IMHO.

Just who exactly are you speaking to?

If me, how did you arrive at the conclusion that I have no direct
service experience?

: Is anyone involved in building a CVN? Will it be a "nuke"?

: I think I should point out the life expectancy of any CVN is approximately
: 15 minutes in an encounter with any submarine, including the oldest in
: commision.

What has this to do with the discussion at hand? Is it possible you
are replying to the wrong thread?


: Maybe y'all should rethink your plans...

Maybe y'all better regain consciousness and realize where you
are.


: Former FTB2 (SS)
: US Submarine Service
: "We go down for money"

: "Gregg Germain" wrote in message
: ...
: In rec.boats.building Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : "Charles Talleyrand" wrote:
:
: : :Nah, I don't think that adds up.
:
: : So construct your case for why it doesn't.
:
: : :Finally, I would be suprised if the cost of a CVN with airwing was
: dominated by
: : :the saleries of the crew. I've always assumed without evidence the
: cost was
: : :more in parts and mainenence and fuel (for the planes).
:
: : Multiply it out. Rough grab of 7,000 crew. Just paying them amounts
: : to over 1/4 billion dollars per year. Now add in the cost manning for
: : all of the shore establishment that helps with maintenance and
: : such....
:
: yes and just paying them is not, I believe, the major cost these
: days. You have health care, various allowances, etc. And as you say
: all the suport personnel that are requried (service doctors,
: medicines, buildings, paperwork people, billeting people etc).
:
: Now it's true we take better care of our people than they did back
: then. But we have a much larger economy as well.
:
:
: --- Gregg
: "Improvise, adapt, overcome."
:
: Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
: Phone: (617) 496-1558
:



--


--- Gregg
"Improvise, adapt, overcome."

Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
Phone: (617) 496-1558

I think the title of this list is "rec.boats.building."

I suspect you may not know were you are.

If this thread has any relavance to building boats, then please carry on.
If not, take it to private e-mail.

You are boring the rest of us, with you endless prattle.

Fred

"Gregg Germain" wrote in message
...
In rec.boats.building Fred Williams wrote:
: Being an ex USN Sailor, I found this discussion semi interesting about
30
: messages ago, but your lack of direct service experience is beginning to
: wear on the thread, IMHO.

Just who exactly are you speaking to?

If me, how did you arrive at the conclusion that I have no direct
service experience?

: Is anyone involved in building a CVN? Will it be a "nuke"?

: I think I should point out the life expectancy of any CVN is
approximately
: 15 minutes in an encounter with any submarine, including the oldest in
: commision.

What has this to do with the discussion at hand? Is it possible you
are replying to the wrong thread?


: Maybe y'all should rethink your plans...

Maybe y'all better regain consciousness and realize where you
are.


: Former FTB2 (SS)
: US Submarine Service
: "We go down for money"

: "Gregg Germain" wrote in message
: ...
: In rec.boats.building Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : "Charles Talleyrand" wrote:
:
: : :Nah, I don't think that adds up.
:
: : So construct your case for why it doesn't.
:
: : :Finally, I would be suprised if the cost of a CVN with airwing was
: dominated by
: : :the saleries of the crew. I've always assumed without evidence the
: cost was
: : :more in parts and mainenence and fuel (for the planes).
:
: : Multiply it out. Rough grab of 7,000 crew. Just paying them amounts
: : to over 1/4 billion dollars per year. Now add in the cost manning
for
: : all of the shore establishment that helps with maintenance and
: : such....
:
: yes and just paying them is not, I believe, the major cost these
: days. You have health care, various allowances, etc. And as you say
: all the suport personnel that are requried (service doctors,
: medicines, buildings, paperwork people, billeting people etc).
:
: Now it's true we take better care of our people than they did back
: then. But we have a much larger economy as well.
:
:
: --- Gregg
: "Improvise, adapt, overcome."
:
: Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
: Phone: (617) 496-1558
:



--


--- Gregg
"Improvise, adapt, overcome."

Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
Phone: (617) 496-1558