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glue for sticking up 3mil plywood in cabin?
Sounds to me like big galvanized lag bolts would be your best bet. (haha) I'd almost vote for 5200, but even though it is advertised as an adhesive caulk, it is designed to be backed up with screws or other fasteners. The Liquid Nails is a good bet, but it will harden up pretty good over time. But at least it's designed to work alone. Got any handrails on the roof? If so, maybe you can use 5200 and run screws into the handrails (if wood) or bolts (if metal)? The 5200 may work alone if you give the wood good coverage. It never gets rock hard, and it's a 'female dog' to remove later should you ever need to, and be prepared to leave it clamped up for the better part of a month if you want to rely on it when you release those shower curtain rods (good idea BTW). Gorilla Glue works too, but again ....like Liquid Nails, it'll harden up over time. Both will fill gaps reasonably. The true glues will likely do just what your first glue did ....hold up quite well, but harden up and be tough to remove later on if you end up doing this job again. The 5200 flexes with temperature and moisture better, is a PITA to remove, but I've never used it alone ...as an adhesive. Good luck and let us know what you go with. Brian "1088" wrote in message ... Day of sun, day of rain, day of sun, day of rain,.. I'm back inside the breathtakingly spacious cabin of my 23' yacht with it's many luxury appointments getting ready to stick up some stained plywood panels I made. It's 3mil 1088 Okume ply. (hence the rakish moniker for this phase of my "refit".) The back of the old stuff was just smeared in a haphazard pattern with a pale yellow paste that dried hard as iron and has to be ground off with diligence and firm language wearing haz-mat headgear. The boat was built at Cowes. So,.. I'm gluing plywood to rough, scabby old fiberglass. What would be easy to apply for a person working alone? I use telescoping plastic shower curtain rods for clamps, or I guess it would be the reverse of clamps. Liquid nails? 5200, 4200, sikoflex 216, 61a? Cheap, good and readily available would be great but if anything buzzes or rattles when the engine runs I will jump overboard. Ok, the spell check is complete, I had 6 errors. |
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Sound very similar to my replacing rotten ply in my cabin top - in this case
the goop was pink, the panels I'm sticking up are 3mm but are going to be painted, and the backing material is the remains of the polyester/glass skin over the rotten plywood. Also doing this alone, done the angle grinder thing, I've been using my telescoping paint roller extension handle and lots of other stuff to hold the new panels in place. I need some strength here, and I can't guarantee that it won't get wet in the future, so I've been using epoxy with sanding filler ( microspheres ). Painting both sides of the bonding surfaces with straight epoxy, then spreading enough epoxy / filler mix so that hopefully there are minimal voids once I push the new panels into place. I don't care about squeeze-out because I'm painting the final panel, it would need more care and masking if you wanted the front of the panel to be pretty. At least with this method you can do a test fit, you have plenty of working time, and you can control the consistency of the goop. David "1088" wrote in message ... Day of sun, day of rain, day of sun, day of rain,.. I'm back inside the breathtakingly spacious cabin of my 23' yacht with it's many luxury appointments getting ready to stick up some stained plywood panels I made. It's 3mil 1088 Okume ply. (hence the rakish moniker for this phase of my "refit".) The back of the old stuff was just smeared in a haphazard pattern with a pale yellow paste that dried hard as iron and has to be ground off with diligence and firm language wearing haz-mat headgear. The boat was built at Cowes. So,.. I'm gluing plywood to rough, scabby old fiberglass. What would be easy to apply for a person working alone? I use telescoping plastic shower curtain rods for clamps, or I guess it would be the reverse of clamps. Liquid nails? 5200, 4200, sikoflex 216, 61a? Cheap, good and readily available would be great but if anything buzzes or rattles when the engine runs I will jump overboard. Ok, the spell check is complete, I had 6 errors. |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:09:47 GMT, 1088 wrote:
Day of sun, day of rain, day of sun, day of rain,.. I'm back inside the breathtakingly spacious cabin of my 23' yacht with it's many luxury appointments getting ready to stick up some stained plywood panels I made. It's 3mil 1088 Okume ply. (hence the rakish moniker for this phase of my "refit".) The back of the old stuff was just smeared in a haphazard pattern with a pale yellow paste that dried hard as iron and has to be ground off with diligence and firm language wearing haz-mat headgear. The boat was built at Cowes. So,.. I'm gluing plywood to rough, scabby old fiberglass. What would be easy to apply for a person working alone? I use telescoping plastic shower curtain rods for clamps, or I guess it would be the reverse of clamps. Liquid nails? 5200, 4200, sikoflex 216, 61a? Cheap, good and readily available would be great but if anything buzzes or rattles when the engine runs I will jump overboard. Ok, the spell check is complete, I had 6 errors. Heavy Duty Liquid Nails (not the regular product) is about the right speed for you, I suspect. Brian Whatcott Altus OK |
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1088 wrote:
So,.. I'm gluing plywood to rough, scabby old fiberglass. What would be easy to apply for a person working alone? Talk to SikaFlex tech service. 5200 would not be my choice for this application. Lew |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:09:47 +0000, 1088 wrote:
Day of sun, day of rain, day of sun, day of rain,.. I'm back inside the breathtakingly spacious cabin of my 23' yacht with it's many luxury appointments getting ready to stick up some stained plywood panels I made. It's 3mil 1088 Okume ply. (hence the rakish moniker for this phase of my "refit".) The back of the old stuff was just smeared in a haphazard pattern with a pale yellow paste that dried hard as iron and has to be ground off with diligence and firm language wearing haz-mat headgear. The boat was built at Cowes. So,.. I'm gluing plywood to rough, scabby old fiberglass. What would be easy to apply for a person working alone? I use telescoping plastic shower curtain rods for clamps, or I guess it would be the reverse of clamps. Liquid nails? 5200, 4200, sikoflex 216, 61a? Cheap, good and readily available would be great but if anything buzzes or rattles when the engine runs I will jump overboard. Ok, the spell check is complete, I had 6 errors. Just how rough is this surface? Could you conceivably fair it first, then use contact cement? This would make clamping a lot easier. You will need an organic vapor respirator for the job. Or a positive pressure haz-mat suit. ;-) With the contact cement, after applying it to both surfaces and letting it dry for a while, you would just have to apply firm pressure for a minute or so and you'd be done. If you are not going to fair the surface first, then maybe a silicone sealant? Or maybe you could still use contact cement. I can't promise it won't rattle, though. Hey, maybe you could glue up some foam first, instead of fairing, then glue up the wood. You could either use contact cement, or that super strong 3M spray adhesive. What is it? 3M 77 or something. You will still want the respirator. As another poster said, I would definitely not use anything that cures slowly (e.g., 5200). --Mac |
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1088 wrote:
So,.. I'm gluing plywood to rough, scabby old fiberglass. What would be easy to apply for a person working alone? I use telescoping plastic shower curtain rods for clamps, or I guess it would be the reverse of clamps. Liquid nails? 5200, 4200, sikoflex 216, 61a? Cheap, good and Try spreading your glue in patches and using a hot melt glue gun to put a few strategic globs of hot melt glue to temporarily hold it in place while the real glue cures Evan Gatehouse |
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Uzytkownik "1088" napisal w wiadomosci ... Day of sun, day of rain, day of sun, day of rain,.. I'm back inside the breathtakingly spacious cabin of my 23' yacht with it's many luxury appointments getting ready to stick up some stained plywood panels I made. It's 3mil 1088 Okume ply. (hence the rakish moniker for this phase of my "refit".) The back of the old stuff was just smeared in a haphazard pattern with a pale yellow paste that dried hard as iron and has to be ground off with diligence and firm language wearing haz-mat headgear. The boat was built at Cowes. So,.. I'm gluing plywood to rough, scabby old fiberglass. What would be easy to apply for a person working alone? I use telescoping plastic shower curtain rods for clamps, or I guess it would be the reverse of clamps. Liquid nails? 5200, 4200, sikoflex 216, 61a? Cheap, good and readily available would be great but if anything buzzes or rattles when the engine runs I will jump overboard. Ok, the spell check is complete, I had 6 errors. Twenty years back from now, I have used jam-like polyurethane glue to remount failed factory-mounted ceiling panel in my Fiat 126P automobile. After smearing old panel completely with this superglue, I lifted it with bare hands, pressed to the roof, and presto, it held! No solvents, no grinding, just pure chemistry. This glue is now available almost everywhere to help amateur shoe repair! Kind regards! Tadeusz |
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1088 wrote:
Day of sun, day of rain, day of sun, day of rain,.. I'm back inside the breathtakingly spacious cabin of my 23' yacht with it's many luxury appointments getting ready to stick up some stained plywood panels I made. It's 3mil 1088 Okume ply. (hence the rakish moniker for this phase of my "refit".) The back of the old stuff was just smeared in a haphazard pattern with a pale yellow paste that dried hard as iron and has to be ground off with diligence and firm language wearing haz-mat headgear. The boat was built at Cowes. So,.. I'm gluing plywood to rough, scabby old fiberglass. What would be easy to apply for a person working alone? I use telescoping plastic shower curtain rods for clamps, or I guess it would be the reverse of clamps. Liquid nails? 5200, 4200, sikoflex 216, 61a? Cheap, good and readily available would be great but if anything buzzes or rattles when the engine runs I will jump overboard. Ok, the spell check is complete, I had 6 errors. When I lined my SC22 with underlay, I rough scratch sanded cleaned with acetone, then used construction adhesive, backed up around some edges with trim of verola door jamb material (looks like mahogany) screwed on from the outside with SS countersunk robertson head screws. Neat job. Some shelf hangars were hung by bolts down through the side decks. On the Tyler 29, some verola wood strips below the windows were screwed on from the outside, and helped form fronts for under deck bins. Worked out beautiful, and cheap. Some areas around the window were left with the old fabric finish. Not all done, yet. Terry K |
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