Because it's "politically correct". Has no basis in science however.

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"Everett" wrote in message
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So why doesn't Southern California allow Electra-San treated discharge??

Everett
Long Beach, CA

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
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Paolo Zini wrote:
...CUT...

removing it altogether...why store waste aboard if you can discharge it
legally AND with far less negative environmental impact than dumping a
tank?

just curious... Do you like to swim in your s**t?

Every sewage treatment plant in the world discharges into somebody's
waters...so it's just a matter of how well treated you want it to be.

And fwiw, the negative impact from just ONE dumped holding tank is
greater on the surrounding waters than that from 1000 boats, all using
Lectra/Sans, in the same waters for 24 hours.


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Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
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Everett wrote:
So why doesn't Southern California allow Electra-San treated discharge??

Everett

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
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Paolo Zini wrote:

...CUT...
removing it altogether...why store waste aboard if you can discharge it
legally AND with far less negative environmental impact than dumping a
tank?

There is a movement afoot to ban chlorine as a deadly poison. We
should minimise or eleiminate poisonous chlorine. -tk

just curious... Do you like to swim in your s**t?

Every sewage treatment plant in the world discharges into somebody's
waters...so it's just a matter of how well treated you want it to be.

And fwiw, the negative impact from just ONE dumped holding tank is greater
on the surrounding waters than that from 1000 boats, all using
Lectra/Sans, in the same waters for 24 hours.

Peggie

....For an area about twice the size of your boat, for about 20
minutes, after which the effect becomes the same as if there was
about one boat using the area for ten minutes per day. It's a
question of concentrations, not quantity. It's the same as peeing
over the side when you need to, or holding it for ten minutes or so,
then peeing over the side. It's a sin which boaters are incapable of
comitting on any scale comparable to any municipal government. Who
should be getting chased over this? Municipal taxpayers and feedlot
operators and agricultural producers and their customers. (That's
"us" folks!) We can't afford wars overseas, we got a war to win in
our own back yard.

And to add to the panic, just think of the devastation to the
ecology whenever a large fish dies. The rotting corpse, full of
deadly E.Coli, fairly explodes with pathogens and methane, wiping
out entire oceans of tiny aquatic phytoplankton victims, force fed
to death, and endangered further by feeding their most deadly
enemies. What is worse is that the local scavangers reproduce
freely as a result, which hugely increases the danger that their
population will overload the ecosystem of an entire region.

The reason they keep swimming in Shanghai harbour is, they got no
where else to go, murcury or no.

We need to do one of two things:

Improve health care for large fish, so as to improve the scenery for
tourists, our only hope for a viable economy, or,

Wipe out those fish which die too often, so as to clean up the
beaches and get rid of those nasty scavangers. Starve them I say,
just like killing the Bison got rid of the pesky native indigenous
primates that stood in the way of an effective economy here in North
America 400 years ago.

Tripe, anyone?

Nature has been looking after herself for a while, as she will
continue to do long after all of stupid humanity has rotted away and
the reptiles take over again. Oh, unless the globe is all
radioactive, in which case, it wil be the insects that take over.

The real question is how and when, not if.

We are being mislead by greedy fools, again, still.

A side of hubris with that?

Terry K

I support David Suzuki as this year's greatest Canadian, but what's
he gonna do for us next year? What are YOU gonna do? That will be
his real measure.

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:08:16 GMT, "Keith"
wrote:

Oops, sorry. It's illegal to discharge even olive oil...
http://www.epa.gov/oilspill/vegoil.htm

Hmm...so if I put "bio-diesel" in my boat engine obtained by back-yard
distillation of Chinese deep-fryer cast-offs, will I be breaking the
law if a drop of wok leavings scented lightly with pork flies out the
stern?

There *is* a sensible middle ground here, but it's notoriously hard to
find middle ground on water, I find.

R.

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:06:12 -0400, Terry Spragg
wrote:


We are being mislead by greedy fools, again, still.

rant

Always. How is the eco-scam different from the cigarette scam (4 out
of 5 Doctors Recommend Metholated Cigarettes for Colds!) of 50 years
ago?

The true, unbiased science and the real risks of human behaviour, or
sins of omission/commission, are always clouded by those interests
that stand to make a buck by minimizing or over-stating those risks.

There used to be such a thing as common sense, and sailors usually had
it more than most people because in part of the dangers of going on
the water.

If you plan your "lifestyle" of cruising or recreational boating with
this in mind, things become simpler. The fact that the average farm
craps into the water exponentially greater amounts of pollutants than
the average marina doesn't in my opinion let boaters off the hook. If
we are conscious and responsible people (who are privileged in world
terms to be lucky enough to go sailing in the first place), then it is
our positive self-interest to keep our waters as clean as possible,
particularly when the fix is behavioural...like choosing a toilet or a
bilge pump method.

I was going to mention how the dreaded zebra mussel has really cleaned
up Lake Ontario, but that clean up has come at the expense of the food
chain. A clear lake devoid of plankton is not healthy, but empty.
Bilge pump behaviours of humans directly caused those changes, and
have brought a ravenous goby into our waters. So long, salmon!

/rant

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:21:19 -0500, rhys wrote:

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:08:16 GMT, "Keith"
wrote:

Oops, sorry. It's illegal to discharge even olive oil...
http://www.epa.gov/oilspill/vegoil.htm

Hmm...so if I put "bio-diesel" in my boat engine obtained by back-yard
distillation of Chinese deep-fryer cast-offs, will I be breaking the
law if a drop of wok leavings scented lightly with pork flies out the
stern?

Looks like you just have to follow the same precautions you would with
ordinary diesel, which doesn't seem unreasonable.

There *is* a sensible middle ground here, but it's notoriously hard to
find middle ground on water, I find.

Check the charts of the St. Clair River just south of Port Huron /
Sarnia (and a bunch of other places) for something clearly labelled
"middle ground" that you very much don't want to find ;-)

Ryk

Yep, that's correct.

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"rhys" wrote in message
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Hmm...so if I put "bio-diesel" in my boat engine obtained by back-yard
distillation of Chinese deep-fryer cast-offs, will I be breaking the
law if a drop of wok leavings scented lightly with pork flies out the
stern?