On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:13:51 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:04:31 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:


In that case, I would highly recommend PL-1 brands.

I've used it to make fuel tanks (test only - never had the guts to fly one).
Bu etching aluminum and priming it, the adhesive reacts with the primer and
gets a really good bite. Fuel proof (for av gas, but I won't claim that for
mogas or diesel. Too many solvents mixed in)

"PL-1" brands? Never heard of it, but tell me more.


Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


What? You don't know PL-1?
That was the second language I ever learned - right after Assembly.
WAY better than C (imnsho)!

You shouldn't brag about an old, old, IBM language. If you want to
brag tell us about how you learned a new language at the feet of
Admiral Hopper :-

Ok, how about PL brand...

http://www.stickwithpl.com/ProductMain.aspx

http://www.stickwithpl.com/

Got it. thanks.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 22:21:07 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote:

I can bond a tee shaped strip to the hull and mount ceiling panels
by
popping them under the tee but thought why not just glue the panels
in, directly to the hull.

Who ever has to get behind those panels to do something in the future
will thank you for your good judgement if you use the bonded tee
aproach.G

Velco and 6"-8" wide ply strips is another approach.

Lew

There is nothing behind the ceiling panels. They are simply panels
attached to the inside of the hull and cabin structure to cover up the
raw fiberglass. All electrical and liquids will either be run on the
surface or through open spaces (engine room, bilges).

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:13:51 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:04:31 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

In that case, I would highly recommend PL-1 brands.

I've used it to make fuel tanks (test only - never had the guts to fly one).
Bu etching aluminum and priming it, the adhesive reacts with the primer and
gets a really good bite. Fuel proof (for av gas, but I won't claim that for
mogas or diesel. Too many solvents mixed in)
"PL-1" brands? Never heard of it, but tell me more.


Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

What? You don't know PL-1?
That was the second language I ever learned - right after Assembly.
WAY better than C (imnsho)!

You shouldn't brag about an old, old, IBM language. If you want to
brag tell us about how you learned a new language at the feet of
Admiral Hopper :-


Oddly enough, I've never had the pleasure of working in Ada.
And Gracie would have been an interesting teacher, I'm sure.

But one works in in whatever language the boss man wants.

Heck, these days its all object oriented bloatware.
No fun allowed!


Ok, how about PL brand...

http://www.stickwithpl.com/ProductMain.aspx

http://www.stickwithpl.com/

Got it. thanks.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote:

There is nothing behind the ceiling panels. They are simply panels
attached to the inside of the hull and cabin structure to cover up
the
raw fiberglass. All electrical and liquids will either be run on the
surface or through open spaces (engine room, bilges).

And if for some unforseeen reason you need to get to the
glass????????????????????????

Lew

On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:12:56 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"Bruce In Bangkok" wrote:

There is nothing behind the ceiling panels. They are simply panels
attached to the inside of the hull and cabin structure to cover up
the
raw fiberglass. All electrical and liquids will either be run on the
surface or through open spaces (engine room, bilges).

And if for some unforseeen reason you need to get to the
glass????????????????????????

Lew

I suspect that if any damage is extensive enough that I need to make
repairs to the actual structure of the boat I can do it from the
outside, or simply rip the interior panels off. You are talking about
some fairly extensive work being required here.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:15:58 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:13:51 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok wrote:
On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:04:31 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

In that case, I would highly recommend PL-1 brands.

I've used it to make fuel tanks (test only - never had the guts to fly one).
Bu etching aluminum and priming it, the adhesive reacts with the primer and
gets a really good bite. Fuel proof (for av gas, but I won't claim that for
mogas or diesel. Too many solvents mixed in)
"PL-1" brands? Never heard of it, but tell me more.


Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

What? You don't know PL-1?
That was the second language I ever learned - right after Assembly.
WAY better than C (imnsho)!

You shouldn't brag about an old, old, IBM language. If you want to
brag tell us about how you learned a new language at the feet of
Admiral Hopper :-


Oddly enough, I've never had the pleasure of working in Ada.
And Gracie would have been an interesting teacher, I'm sure.

But one works in in whatever language the boss man wants.

Heck, these days its all object oriented bloatware.
No fun allowed!

Funny, you know. Way back then, people used to brag about how they
optimized their assembler language routines and were even able to use
the same memory block for several different functions..... now even
C++ isn't big enough :-)

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok" wrote:

I suspect that if any damage is extensive enough that I need to make
repairs to the actual structure of the boat I can do it from the
outside, or simply rip the interior panels off. You are talking
about
some fairly extensive work being required here.

Being inherently lazy, I never knowling create future unnecessary work
if I can help it.

Lew

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce,

Review of PL adhesives as used in boat building.

Thought it might help
http://www.simplicityboats.com/pl_premium.htm

And ...

http://www.simplicityboats.com/methodsnmaterials.html

On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:14:00 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:

Bruce In Bangkok" wrote:

I suspect that if any damage is extensive enough that I need to make
repairs to the actual structure of the boat I can do it from the
outside, or simply rip the interior panels off. You are talking
about
some fairly extensive work being required here.

Being inherently lazy, I never knowling create future unnecessary work
if I can help it.

Lew

Basically I feel the same but there is a limit to the things I am
going to make easy to disassemble just in case that it breaks.
Following that theory to the extreme would have you attaching the
ballast keel with quick release fastenings :-)

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)