Adrift With Two Captains

By Eugene Robinson
Washington Post
Tuesday, November 25, 2008; A15

Having two presidents is starting to feel like having no president, and
that's the situation we'll face until Inauguration Day. Heaven help us.

President Bush spent the weekend in Lima, Peru, at a meeting of the
Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum, conferring with Pacific Rim
leaders who had no reason to pay attention to anything he said. Bush
did, however, cut a dashing figure in a traditional Peruvian poncho.
Yesterday morning, minus the poncho, he was back home lending his
imprimatur to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson's latest diving catch to
save the global economy from utter ruin -- this time, the massive
bailout of Citigroup.

A couple of hours later, the other president, Barack Obama, presented
his new, high-powered economic team. Obama made a point of saying that
the prospective officials -- led by Timothy Geithner, his pick to head
Treasury -- would start working immediately. Obama also made clear that
there's very little they can do except monitor the situation, study
possible solutions and develop a plan to be enacted after Jan. 20. We
can't afford another month or more of drift, Obama said. But I'm afraid
that's just what we're going to get.

The problem, and it's becoming serious, is that no one is prepared to
orchestrate a comprehensive program to stabilize the financial system,
put a floor under housing prices and keep the economy from sinking into
a long, punishing recession.

Bush could and should do it -- he is still president, and preventing
economic collapse is part of the job description. But he won't. It's
ironic that after being so aggressive and proactive in other areas, the
Decider is so indecisive and passive about the economy. He has limited
his role to signing off on whatever Paulson says is necessary -- most
recently, $20 billion in cash and $306 billion in guarantees for
Citigroup, a move that Bush apparently approved during his flight home
from Peru.

In part, Bush's inaction stems from ideology. If the free market is
always right, it ought to correct itself and get back on course. All the
government really needs to do is take care of a few emergencies such as
Bear Stearns, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, IndyMac, AIG, Wachovia, Citigroup
.. . . and, of course, whatever comes next. Not the auto companies,
however: In Bushworld, the firms that created the toxic mortgage-backed
securities that threaten to bring down the global financial system are
somehow morally superior to the companies that created the Mustang, the
Malibu and the minivan.

I don't think ideology explains it all, though. Even if he wanted to
make a real run at righting the economy, at this point Bush has neither
the energy nor the credibility to make it happen. Frankly, he comes off
as less a lame duck than a cooked goose.

That leaves the other president, who has plenty of energy and
credibility -- but no authority. Bush said he called Obama to inform him
of the Citigroup bailout, but informing isn't the same as consulting.
Obama said his new economic team will be monitoring the situation and
giving him daily reports on where things stand. He could save them the
trouble and just watch CNBC or Bloomberg all day.

Obama said he believes a huge economic stimulus is needed "right away."
But he knows that won't happen -- it's unlikely that anything big enough
could get through the outgoing Congress, and, in any event, a big
stimulus is not something that Bush is willing to support. Obama said
that "we cannot hesitate and we cannot delay," but he knows full well
that hesitation and delay are all but inevitable. And he knows full well
that by the time he gets the power to shape events, the economic
situation might be much worse than it is now.

James Baker, the former secretary of state and current Republican
eminence grise, made an amazing suggestion on "Meet the Press" Sunday --
that Bush and Obama develop and announce a joint economic rescue
program. It was a stunning acknowledgment of how weak the Bush
presidency has become and how dangerous it would be to spend the next
two months meandering from crisis to crisis.

But that's the road we're on. When I get frustrated with Paulson's
zigzags and reversals, with his overnight decisions to buy huge
companies or write hundred-billion-dollar checks, I remind myself that
he doesn't really have a president to work for. The poor man may stumble
here and there, but he's dancing as fast as he can.

Boater wrote:
Adrift With Two Captains

By Eugene Robinson
Washington Post
Tuesday, November 25, 2008; A15

Having two presidents is starting to feel like having no president, and
that's the situation we'll face until Inauguration Day. Heaven help us.

Trying to explain The Obama voting present last week?

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Adrift With Two Captains

By Eugene Robinson
Washington Post
Tuesday, November 25, 2008; A15

Having two presidents is starting to feel like having no president,
and that's the situation we'll face until Inauguration Day. Heaven
help us.

Trying to explain The Obama voting present last week?


Whoooooosh.

As others have stated and as Robinson has explained, there's very little
Obama can do until he is in office. We still have Bush kicking us around.

Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Adrift With Two Captains

By Eugene Robinson
Washington Post
Tuesday, November 25, 2008; A15

Having two presidents is starting to feel like having no president,
and that's the situation we'll face until Inauguration Day. Heaven
help us.

Trying to explain The Obama voting present last week?


Whoooooosh.

Right.

As others have stated and as Robinson has explained, there's very little
Obama can do until he is in office. We still have Bush kicking us around.

The Obama can effect public opinion by naming people to he will nominate
to the various cabinet level positions. This will go along way towards
calming the markets and providing the US public with some comfort that
they elected a guy who may be able to do the job.

But, when The Obama keeps waiting in the wings pushing his minions out
to recite the "he is not president yet" mantra it provides no comfort
and no confidence that he knows what he is doing and what will happen on
the afternoon of January 20th.

The Obama has stated that he wants to hit the ground running on January
20th. What better way than to walk back over to the US Senate and drop a
stack of Cabinet level nominations on Leader Reid's desk and say I want
them behind their desks within a week. The vetting process could be
concluded by the time The Obama takes his oath of office. There is
nothing stopping that process from starting in Congress now.

It is going to be interesting to see how well Pelosi and Reid play with
The Obama. Each of them believes that they run the country.

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Adrift With Two Captains

By Eugene Robinson
Washington Post
Tuesday, November 25, 2008; A15

Having two presidents is starting to feel like having no president,
and that's the situation we'll face until Inauguration Day. Heaven
help us.

Trying to explain The Obama voting present last week?


Whoooooosh.

Right.

As others have stated and as Robinson has explained, there's very
little Obama can do until he is in office. We still have Bush kicking
us around.

The Obama can effect public opinion by naming people to he will nominate
to the various cabinet level positions. This will go along way towards
calming the markets and providing the US public with some comfort that
they elected a guy who may be able to do the job.



D'oh. He's been doing that. Where have you been?

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:53:24 -0500, Boater wrote:



In part, Bush's inaction stems from ideology. If the free market is
always right, it ought to correct itself and get back on course.

True. Except for the Barney Franks of the world.

Harry, your cut'n'pastes are a boor.

How was the mirror trip this morning?

Gotta go now. Going to play Laurel Hill. I will walk my five miles and
enjoy some beautiful scenery!


http://tinyurl.com/5rkp4a

--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:53:24 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Adrift With Two Captains

By Eugene Robinson
Washington Post
Tuesday, November 25, 2008; A15

You need to get up to date on this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/25/us...a.html?_r=1&hp

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:49:17 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:53:24 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Adrift With Two Captains

By Eugene Robinson
Washington Post
Tuesday, November 25, 2008; A15

You need to get up to date on this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/25/us...a.html?_r=1&hp

That puts Harry in a severe quandary:

Bush is doing something right, which is untenable, or;

Obama is doing something wrong, which is even worse.

I think I'd just stand in front of the mirror for an extra hour!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:53:24 -0500, Boater
wrote:

Adrift With Two Captains

By Eugene Robinson
Washington Post
Tuesday, November 25, 2008; A15

You need to get up to date on this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/25/us...a.html?_r=1&hp


Yeah, except bush isn't doing anything.