On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 17:29:19 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote:



Well, here I am with a 4 year old son and he's simply awesome!
But long sails just don't work for us these days and we mainly daysail
and weekend aboard Heart of Gold.

We've decided to try some real cruising when Thomas turns 6 or 7 and
to that end we've been looking at many boats, used and new. Before
that purchase we're going to spend a month or so sailing in Greece
aboard our friend's Tayana 42.

At that point....drum roll please!

I'll start a serious hunt for a Corbin 39 Aft Cabin. I "met" the
Corbin 39 recently and fell in love. The boat sails well, looks great
and has the character I love associated with pilot house sailboats.
For now we'll continue to enjoy our Beneteau, but we're very excited
about doing some local cruising and then trying out some longer trips
on the Corbin. We'll start with the Beneteau....and continue with the
Corbin.

For those of you not familiar with the Corbin 39, it looks like
this....

http://images20.fotki.com/v385/photo...ap54917-vi.jpg

These are not heavy boats as some cruising boats are and she sails
well in light air. She is over-rigged according to some, but we'll be
coastal and that will suit us well most of the time.


Cheers,


RB


Cool! What's that superstructure on the stern? Is that a davit or
where you coil the thousand foot extension cord?

Frank Boettcher wrote:


For those of you not familiar with the Corbin 39, it looks like
this....

http://images20.fotki.com/v385/photo...ap54917-vi.jpg

These are not heavy boats as some cruising boats are and she sails
well in light air. She is over-rigged according to some, but we'll be
coastal and that will suit us well most of the time.


Cheers,


RB


Cool! What's that superstructure on the stern? Is that a davit or
where you coil the thousand foot extension cord?

Thousand feet? Bit of overkill for Bob don't you think, one hundred tops!

Cheers
Martin

Corbin ................................ LOL.................

On Oct 9, 1:47 am, Ringmaster wrote:
Corbin ................................ LOL.................




I sailed one this summer, SLOWco. Have you ever sailed one?


Hmmmmm?



RB

On Oct 9, 1:47 am, Ringmaster wrote:
Corbin ................................ LOL.................




BTW, Sloco.....We had a Depressed 30 at our docks for a few weeks.
Nice owners, which was a surprise. They bought the boat as a stop-gap,
which I found hilarious. The boat is quick, but on a reach my 35s5
passed them as did my friend's 30/30. They then added better sails
from UK and the boat STILL couldn't keep up with us. Not exactly
shocking since my boat is larger and with my shallow draft they could
point slightly higher, though not as good as the 30/30. The interior
is awful, quite depressed as the name suggests. But why buy one when a
J30 offers a far nicer interior and more hulls to play with? The 30/30
is both faster and FAR better looking. Of course my boat is faster and
about 100 times better looking and nicer to be aboard.
Not matter. I heard you finally bought a nice boat and sold the
depress 30 at last. Good for you! What did you buy?



RB

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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On Oct 9, 1:47 am, Ringmaster wrote:
Corbin ................................ LOL.................


Seems to me the boat desired, needed, required, etc. depends on the use to
which it will be put. RB agrees, I think, since he changes boats every few
years, and we know he can afford any boat his heart desires.

Crab crushers have their uses and in some roles are the very best boat for
the task at hand.

Can we not discuss the pros and cons of a particular boat, its uses etc.
without the "my boat is superior to yours?" Frankly, I would like insights
into the relative merits of boats for particular uses. If more people here
would dispassionately discuss boats, I would find this newsgroup more useful
and interesting.

I know RB, Marty, Oz, Doug, Ringmaster, JG and others have enough knowledge
to discuss boats intelligently. It is a shame there isn't more of it.

On 9 Oct, 18:53, "jlrogers±³©" wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

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On Oct 9, 1:47 am, Ringmaster wrote:
Corbin ................................ LOL.................

Seems to me the boat desired, needed, required, etc. depends on the use to
which it will be put. RB agrees, I think, since he changes boats every few
years, and we know he can afford any boat his heart desires.

Crab crushers have their uses and in some roles are the very best boat for
the task at hand.

Can we not discuss the pros and cons of a particular boat, its uses etc.
without the "my boat is superior to yours?" Frankly, I would like insights
into the relative merits of boats for particular uses. If more people here
would dispassionately discuss boats, I would find this newsgroup more useful
and interesting.

I know RB, Marty, Oz, Doug, Ringmaster, JG and others have enough knowledge
to discuss boats intelligently. It is a shame there isn't more of it.

Actually, none of us can offer advice outside of our experience. RB
sails
within a mile of his marina with a "family" crew. Oz, as far as I
can see,
races single class boats. Doug, seems to be a racer of "20
something"
foot yachts. Likewise, Ringmaster races a particular boat.

JG, probably has as much general expereince as any of
us.

My experience is mainly based on a single boat. Fortunately,
I seem to have made the right choice. All of us will
give advice that we think will help *you* to make the
right choice. Unfortunately, my "right choice" may not
be your "right choice".

As I see it, you have two choices.
1) Go for your ultimate boat!
2) Buy something "safe" so that you can learn
about your real requirements.

My advice is to take choice 2).

However, when I bought my boat I took option
1). It worked for me.


I think that it all depends on how confident you
feel about your ability to define your own ultimate
yacht.



Regards


Donal
--

I would say that while I have a fairly diverse sailing CV, Doug probably has
a more extensive one, as does Bart, and a couple of others. I don't have
long-term, deep water experience, at least not over a couple of weeks worth
in one shot. I think I also have a fairly decent level of experience with
different makes and models. I think the best method of picking a boat to own
is to sail lots of different boats. That's what I tell my students. It's not
clear to me how much experience BS has in this regard because it's hard to
separate the BS from BS.

I'm not a big fan of pilot house boats... lots of windage and potential for
losing portlights in bad conditions.

wrote in message
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On 9 Oct, 18:53, "jlrogers±³©" wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

...

On Oct 9, 1:47 am, Ringmaster wrote:
Corbin ................................ LOL.................

Seems to me the boat desired, needed, required, etc. depends on the use to
which it will be put. RB agrees, I think, since he changes boats every
few
years, and we know he can afford any boat his heart desires.

Crab crushers have their uses and in some roles are the very best boat for
the task at hand.

Can we not discuss the pros and cons of a particular boat, its uses etc.
without the "my boat is superior to yours?" Frankly, I would like
insights
into the relative merits of boats for particular uses. If more people
here
would dispassionately discuss boats, I would find this newsgroup more
useful
and interesting.

I know RB, Marty, Oz, Doug, Ringmaster, JG and others have enough
knowledge
to discuss boats intelligently. It is a shame there isn't more of it.

Actually, none of us can offer advice outside of our experience. RB
sails
within a mile of his marina with a "family" crew. Oz, as far as I
can see,
races single class boats. Doug, seems to be a racer of "20
something"
foot yachts. Likewise, Ringmaster races a particular boat.

JG, probably has as much general expereince as any of
us.

My experience is mainly based on a single boat. Fortunately,
I seem to have made the right choice. All of us will
give advice that we think will help *you* to make the
right choice. Unfortunately, my "right choice" may not
be your "right choice".

As I see it, you have two choices.
1) Go for your ultimate boat!
2) Buy something "safe" so that you can learn
about your real requirements.

My advice is to take choice 2).

However, when I bought my boat I took option
1). It worked for me.


I think that it all depends on how confident you
feel about your ability to define your own ultimate
yacht.



Regards


Donal
--



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"jlrogers±³©" wrote:
I know RB, Marty, Oz, Doug, Ringmaster, JG and others have enough knowledge
to discuss boats intelligently. *It is a shame there isn't more of it.

Now he wants intelligent discussion!

Oops, too late!!

Well, at least some of us aren't obsessed with yakking endlessly about
the new toys daddy bought for us.

DSK

On Oct 9, 8:21�am, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
On Oct 9, 1:47 am, Ringmaster wrote:

Corbin ................................ LOL.................

BTW, Sloco.....We had a Depressed 30 at our docks for a few weeks.
Nice owners, which was a surprise. They bought the boat as a stop-gap,
which I found hilarious. The boat is quick, but on a reach my 35s5
passed them as did my friend's 30/30. They then added better sails
from UK and the boat STILL couldn't keep up with us. Not exactly
shocking since my boat is larger and with my shallow draft they could
point slightly higher, though not as good as the 30/30. The interior
is awful, quite depressed as the name suggests. But why buy one when a
J30 offers a far nicer interior and more hulls to play with? The 30/30
is both faster and FAR better looking. Of course my boat is faster and
about 100 times better looking and nicer to be aboard.
Not matter. I heard you finally bought a nice boat and sold the
depress 30 at last. Good for you! What did you buy?

RB

Oh another attempt to bash my boat. Hey Boob I would expect to get
passed by a Santana 30/30. It rates 19 seconds a mile faster. As far
as being better looking well that's in the eye of the beholder. As
far as being nicer below I guess that's true if you like lawn
furniture and a sail bin. What year was the Express 30 that was
visiting your gehetto marina? You keep finding early hull numbers to
pick apart the interior. Later models did away with the multi. ice
boxes port and stb. and added either a quarter berth or a aft head.
Hows the skank?