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Lessons from FHYC flare shoot
wrote in message ... If a flare lands on the deck of a boat, good luck! It will burn it's way down and out through the bottom very quickly while you try and figure out what you have on board that will extinguish a magnesium fire. (hint: you don't have anything) They will burn right through the bottom of a metal bucket. A guy o a wooden boat moored right next to where I was anchored in a harbour full of boats thought it would be a good idea to let off an expired parachute flare at the conclusion of the regatta. The flare ignited but only travelled a few feet and fell into the water. We watched it burn underwater as it sank. |
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:17:11 -0600, "Roger Helio"
wrote this crap: Pyrene fire extinguishers where the defacto fire extinguisher aboard boats up until the 1950's. http://www.vintagefe.com/chriscraft.html Two problems: 1. They used carbon tetrachloride as the agent which affects the human brain ("mad hatter"). 2. When used on burning magnesium, phosgene (nerve gas) was generated. Today, a powder substance also called "Pyrene" is used for class D extinguishers which include magnesium fires. However, I don't believe it is carbon tet. I would recommend mariners carrying a Class D extinguisher as well as filling the mast with concrete for fire protection. It's been a while since I took organic chemistry, but I still remember that carbon tet, (CCL4 ) is highly flammable. Not to mention, poisonous. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:17:11 -0600, "Roger Helio" wrote this crap: Pyrene fire extinguishers where the defacto fire extinguisher aboard boats up until the 1950's. http://www.vintagefe.com/chriscraft.html Two problems: 1. They used carbon tetrachloride as the agent which affects the human brain ("mad hatter"). 2. When used on burning magnesium, phosgene (nerve gas) was generated. Today, a powder substance also called "Pyrene" is used for class D extinguishers which include magnesium fires. However, I don't believe it is carbon tet. I would recommend mariners carrying a Class D extinguisher as well as filling the mast with concrete for fire protection. It's been a while since I took organic chemistry, but I still remember that carbon tet, (CCL4 ) is highly flammable. Not to mention, poisonous. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. Didja miss the part where he suggested filling the mast with concrete? |
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:34:46 -0400, "Lee" wrote:
It's been a while since I took organic chemistry, but I still remember that carbon tet, (CCL4 ) is highly flammable. Not to mention, poisonous. It's not at all flammible. Its already burned with chlorine as the oxidizer,and the carbon will hang on to the chlorine even if oxygen wants the spot. I am old enough to remember when it was used as the filler in fire extinguishers. Carbon disulfide is the flammible one. Casady |
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"Richard Casady" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:34:46 -0400, "Lee" wrote: It's been a while since I took organic chemistry, but I still remember that carbon tet, (CCL4 ) is highly flammable. Not to mention, poisonous. It's not at all flammible. Its already burned with chlorine as the oxidizer,and the carbon will hang on to the chlorine even if oxygen wants the spot. I am old enough to remember when it was used as the filler in fire extinguishers. Carbon disulfide is the flammible one. Casady Learn how to quote properly. I didn't write any of that. Are you related to boob****? |
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:54:16 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote this crap: On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:34:46 -0400, "Lee" wrote: It's been a while since I took organic chemistry, but I still remember that carbon tet, (CCL4 ) is highly flammable. Not to mention, poisonous. It's not at all flammible. Its already burned with chlorine as the oxidizer,and the carbon will hang on to the chlorine even if oxygen wants the spot. I am old enough to remember when it was used as the filler in fire extinguishers. Carbon disulfide is the flammible one. Casady Do you even know what you are talking about? I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:34:46 -0400, "Lee" wrote this
crap: Pyrene fire extinguishers where the defacto fire extinguisher aboard boats up until the 1950's. Didja miss the part where he suggested filling the mast with concrete? Uh. Not really. Would you give your superpowers for his brainiac ability? I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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Bloody Horvath wrote:
Uh. Not really. Would you give your superpowers for his brainiac ability? No, but I bet he'd trade for retractable claws like Wolverine. DSK |
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On Apr 21, 1:17*pm, "Roger Helio" wrote:
1. They used carbon tetrachloride as the agent which affects the human brain ("mad hatter"). The Hatter was mad because of mercury (used in the manufacture of felt hats) poisoning. 2. When used on burning magnesium, phosgene (nerve gas) was generated. Phosgene is a choking agent. |
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