On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:08:34 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:

Am convinced that for the most part, to qualify to receive the keys to
a power vessel, you must certify you only have 2 brain cells, of which
at least one must be dead.

Now wait just a minute here.

Capt JG was in a 32 ft, seaworthy, ocean going sailboat, in open
water. Why should he be concerned about a 2 or 3 ft wake? Let's get
real. A wake is a wave by any other name. If you are worried about
small waves in a 32 ft sailboat better to stay home. Power boats
leave wakes (waves). It's a fact and has nothing to do with brain
cells, moral fiber or any other personal characteristic.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:08:34 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:

Am convinced that for the most part, to qualify to receive the keys to
a power vessel, you must certify you only have 2 brain cells, of which
at least one must be dead.

Now wait just a minute here.

Capt JG was in a 32 ft, seaworthy, ocean going sailboat, in open
water. Why should he be concerned about a 2 or 3 ft wake? Let's get
real. A wake is a wave by any other name. If you are worried about
small waves in a 32 ft sailboat better to stay home. Power boats
leave wakes (waves). It's a fact and has nothing to do with brain
cells, moral fiber or any other personal characteristic.


Who said it was seaworthy? :-) Certainly it isn't ocean capable. At least I
wouldn't take it there. It was more like we experienced a 3-4 foot wake in
close proximity to the source, with people on deck, and in otherwise calm
conditions with very little wind. The boater came within 10 feet of us going
over 10kts. You're saying this is appropriate behavior???

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On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:08:06 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

The boater came within 10 feet of us going
over 10kts. You're saying this is appropriate behavior???

Distances can be deceptive sometimes. I'm betting it was more than
that but I understand your point.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:08:06 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

The boater came within 10 feet of us going
over 10kts. You're saying this is appropriate behavior???

Distances can be deceptive sometimes. I'm betting it was more than
that but I understand your point.


Wait until one of these clowns rolls you beam ends and see happy you are.
They know what they are doing when they will not even turn around on the
bridge while I was sounding shorts blasts of the air horns.

Leanne

On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:08:57 -0500, "Leanne" wrote:

Wait until one of these clowns rolls you beam ends and see happy you are.
They know what they are doing when they will not even turn around on the
bridge while I was sounding shorts blasts of the air horns.

Some people roll me, and some get rolled by me. It's part of boating
and being on the water. I am constantly amazed at the hue and cry
raised by large seaworthy sailboats when they encounter a wake. It is
not written in stone anywhere that the water will always be flat.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:08:57 -0500, "Leanne" wrote:

Wait until one of these clowns rolls you beam ends and see happy you are.
They know what they are doing when they will not even turn around on the
bridge while I was sounding shorts blasts of the air horns.

Some people roll me, and some get rolled by me. It's part of boating
and being on the water. I am constantly amazed at the hue and cry
raised by large seaworthy sailboats when they encounter a wake. It is
not written in stone anywhere that the water will always be flat.


You're certainly correct, and most of the time a simple wake from a boat is
no big deal. However, boaters are responsible for their wakes, so if they
cause damage or injury, they would be responsible for it (even if they don't
know that).

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:08:57 -0500, "Leanne" wrote:

Wait until one of these clowns rolls you beam ends and see happy you are.
They know what they are doing when they will not even turn around on the
bridge while I was sounding shorts blasts of the air horns.

Some people roll me, and some get rolled by me. It's part of boating
and being on the water. I am constantly amazed at the hue and cry
raised by large seaworthy sailboats when they encounter a wake. It is
not written in stone anywhere that the water will always be flat.

Spoken like a true powerboater. While that may make sense to you,
sailors can generally say, "I get rolled often by irresponsible
powerboaters, and I've never rolled anyone."

FWIW, since I got my catamaran, I haven't been bothered much by wakes -
in fact on the ICW I frequently told following PB's to come through at
full throttle because the wake doesn't affect me. However, on numerous
occasions I've been blasted by large wakes - over three feet - from
sport fisherman doing 20+ knots in a no wake zone. When you're on a
smaller boat, this can be dangerous.

A few days ago, someone from my winter marina was going through (almost
empty) Boston Harbor and got stopped by the State Police for a large
wake. Where are they in the Summer when its actually a problem!

On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:19:42 -0500, jeff wrote:

Spoken like a true powerboater. While that may make sense to you,
sailors can generally say, "I get rolled often by irresponsible
powerboaters, and I've never rolled anyone."

The problem is that many sailors think that all powerboaters leaving a
wake are irresponsible just because the wake inconveniences them in
some way, and don't even get me started on sailboats who expect the
right-of-way while under power, or who suddenly tack in front of a
moving powerboat and demand the right-of-way. Fortunately most of
them seem to understand that five blasts on the air horn is a danger
signal. My other pet peeve is sailboats who don't know how to analyze
a crossing situation, not realizing that I've already altered course
to pass astern of them.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:08:57 -0500, "Leanne"
wrote:

Wait until one of these clowns rolls you beam ends and
see happy you are.
They know what they are doing when they will not even
turn around on the
bridge while I was sounding shorts blasts of the air
horns.

Some people roll me, and some get rolled by me.


You *ARE* responsible for your wake!


It's part of boating and being on the water.

It's a part of BAD boating, and being on the water with
ignorant, arrogant power boaters.



I am constantly amazed at the hue and cry
raised by large seaworthy sailboats when they encounter a
wake.


I am not amazed anymore when I see an idiot wake a small
boat. Sadly, it happens all too often.



It is
not written in stone anywhere that the water will always
be flat.


It *IS* written in the books that YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR
YOUR WAKE !

SBV

On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:44:40 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:

Some people roll me, and some get rolled by me.


You *ARE* responsible for your wake!


It's part of boating and being on the water.

It's a part of BAD boating, and being on the water with
ignorant, arrogant power boaters.

Nonsense. Have you ever seen the wake from a freighter or fast tug
boat? If so you'll never complain about sportfish or motoryachts.