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"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:56:50 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:

I sure as shootin wouldn't take these Hunters out the Gate unless the
conditions were benign... they're not off-shore capable.


You're an idiot. I've gone through storms that would have you tied to
the mast, puking your guts into your purse.

I took third place in a race during one of those storms.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.


Are you related to Capt Neal?

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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:00:11 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:

Stop making excuses for your childish actions.

Pot kettle black. Go back to your toy boat and continue whinning.

Carry on.

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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:38:31 -0500, "mr.b" wrote:

that's obvious...but not to the point...the discussion was about the
ignorant and arrogant who pilot their stinktubs with what could be
described as a less than cooperative spirit...like the moron described by
the OP.

A lot of it is a perception issue. People in larger, faster boats are
percieved as being arrogant, particularly if they are well dressed or
in the company of good looking women. If they inconvenience or
discomfit us, they are percieved as being ignorant. Take that same
person and put him down on your level in a sailboat and all of a
sudden he is an educated, well spoken, all around nice guy.

Perceptions.

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Bloody Horvath wrote:
I took third place in a race during one of those storms.


I threw out most of my third place trophies. Not worth the shelf
space.

DSK

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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:39:53 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:

It would explain a lot of the poor seamanship displayed by
some.

BTW you *ARE* responsible for your wake.

Discomforting a sound seaworthy sailboat with a wave hardly falls into
the category of poor seamanship, common attitudes not withstanding. I
am *very* careful with my wake in narrow passages and around small low
freeboard craft. Not everyone is, but they should be.

There is a common problem with overtaking situations which some
sailboaters appear totally oblivious to. It happens a lot on the ICW
which is none too wide in many places. If a sailboat continues on at
close to hull speed while a powerboat is overtaking, there is no
choice for the powerboat other than leaving a wake. Most experienced
sailors on the ICW recognize this issue and slow down to idle speed
allowing the powerboat to reduce speed also. Those who don't get
waked by yet another "arrogant ignorant" powerboater.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:55:43 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

You are responsible for your wake... PBer or sailor.

Yes, everyone knows that they are responsible for *damage* caused by
their wake. That does not include inconvenience or damaged egos
however.


Please show me where I said it damaged my ego or was inconvenient? I said
that it endangered my crew.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:16:21 -0500, "mr.b" wrote:

On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:35:55 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

The problem is that many sailors think that all powerboaters leaving a
wake are irresponsible just because the wake inconveniences them in some
waysnip

I'd like to invite you to stand in my cockpit sometime and get acquainted
with the business end of my boom when one of your powerboatin' pals comes
by...

Trust me, I've spent a lot of time under, over and around booms, and
have always disliked getting waked as much as anyone else, especially
when closing on a finish line in light air.

The fact is however that wakes and waves are part of being on the
water, and no one should expect a powerboat to slow down just to
improve their comfort level or finish position.


And, it's not a matter of improving someone's comfort. It's a matter of
respecting the rules, which this guy clearly didn't do, thus putting people
in danger. For someone who wasn't there, you sure seem certain about what
happened. Why's that?


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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:44:40 -0500, "Scotty"
wrote:

Some people roll me, and some get rolled by me.


You *ARE* responsible for your wake!


It's part of boating and being on the water.

It's a part of BAD boating, and being on the water with
ignorant, arrogant power boaters.

Nonsense. Have you ever seen the wake from a freighter or
fast tug
boat? If so you'll never complain about sportfish or
motoryachts.



Big ships and tugs don't pass within 20 feet at full speed
like some stinkpotters do.





Exactly. In fact, the tugs going along as powerboats and not working are
quite courteous. They get it. I've been on the ocean and had a tanker change
course to go around us... following the rules as he should have. We hailed
him and thanked him.


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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:44:40 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:

It is
not written in stone anywhere that the water will always
be flat.


It *IS* written in the books that YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR
YOUR WAKE !

Responsible for damage.

No blood, no foul.


Responsible for damage and/or injury.

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:56:50 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:

I sure as shootin wouldn't take these Hunters out the Gate unless the
conditions were benign... they're not off-shore capable.


You're an idiot. I've gone through storms that would have you tied to
the mast, puking your guts into your purse.

I took third place in a race during one of those storms.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.


Are you related to Capt Neal?



He's just another dweeb who thinks he knows something and doesn't. He's
quite insecure and a coward, apparently.

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