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thunder November 6th 07 11:13 PM

dead engines, kayaks, and powerboaters
 
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:56:45 -0500, Gregory Hall wrote:


I say when he finally ends up injuring or killing somebody their
relatives can sue him for everything he owns. Then they can go after the
Coast Guard and have a very good chance of getting a large settlement
from them. The Coast Guard's ultimately responsible for licensing
unqualified people.

Greg


Uh huh.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def/f071.htm

Gregory Hall November 6th 07 11:28 PM

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"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:56:45 -0500, Gregory Hall wrote:


I say when he finally ends up injuring or killing somebody their
relatives can sue him for everything he owns. Then they can go after the
Coast Guard and have a very good chance of getting a large settlement
from them. The Coast Guard's ultimately responsible for licensing
unqualified people.

Greg


Uh huh.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def/f071.htm


None of that bilge has got anything to do with wrongful death or injury
suits.

Greg



Bloody Horvath November 7th 07 12:19 AM

dead engines, kayaks, and powerboaters
 
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:23:53 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:

Heh... I don't get it I guess... do they really expect me to get out of the
way?



If they don't get out of your way, you can always hit them with your
purse.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

David L. Martel November 7th 07 12:21 AM

dead engines, kayaks, and powerboaters
 
JG,

I don't quite follow the kayak story. Why couldn't you luff your sail.
Sounds like they had the right of way and I don't think that you had an
emergency.

Dave M.



Wayne.B November 7th 07 12:40 AM

dead engines, kayaks, and powerboaters
 
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:08:34 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:

Am convinced that for the most part, to qualify to receive the keys to
a power vessel, you must certify you only have 2 brain cells, of which
at least one must be dead.


Now wait just a minute here.

Capt JG was in a 32 ft, seaworthy, ocean going sailboat, in open
water. Why should he be concerned about a 2 or 3 ft wake? Let's get
real. A wake is a wave by any other name. If you are worried about
small waves in a 32 ft sailboat better to stay home. Power boats
leave wakes (waves). It's a fact and has nothing to do with brain
cells, moral fiber or any other personal characteristic.

Jeff November 7th 07 01:05 AM

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David L. Martel wrote:

I don't quite follow the kayak story. Why couldn't you luff your sail.
Sounds like they had the right of way


How do you figure that?

[email protected] November 7th 07 01:07 AM

dead engines, kayaks, and powerboaters
 
On Nov 6, 11:56 am, "Roger Long" wrote:
"Robert Musgine" wrote

He should have run up the day shapes.


No, the boat was under 12 meters.

--
Roger Long


Well, I don't think that's right. If he was restricted in his ability
to maneuver then he has to put up his day shapes. Size doesn't enter
into it. Of course, I don't think he was RIBM as the rules have it.
The question of who had the right of way is hard in this case as human
powered boats aren't mentioned in COLREGS. The implication based on
their lights is that they have the rights of a sail boat, but I don't
know if that's been tested...

-- Tom.


Capt. JG November 7th 07 01:08 AM

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:08:34 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:

Am convinced that for the most part, to qualify to receive the keys to
a power vessel, you must certify you only have 2 brain cells, of which
at least one must be dead.


Now wait just a minute here.

Capt JG was in a 32 ft, seaworthy, ocean going sailboat, in open
water. Why should he be concerned about a 2 or 3 ft wake? Let's get
real. A wake is a wave by any other name. If you are worried about
small waves in a 32 ft sailboat better to stay home. Power boats
leave wakes (waves). It's a fact and has nothing to do with brain
cells, moral fiber or any other personal characteristic.



Who said it was seaworthy? :-) Certainly it isn't ocean capable. At least I
wouldn't take it there. It was more like we experienced a 3-4 foot wake in
close proximity to the source, with people on deck, and in otherwise calm
conditions with very little wind. The boater came within 10 feet of us going
over 10kts. You're saying this is appropriate behavior???

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG November 7th 07 01:08 AM

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"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:56:45 -0500, Gregory Hall wrote:


I say when he finally ends up injuring or killing somebody their
relatives can sue him for everything he owns. Then they can go after the
Coast Guard and have a very good chance of getting a large settlement
from them. The Coast Guard's ultimately responsible for licensing
unqualified people.

Greg


Uh huh.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def/f071.htm



He's a stalker... forget em.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG November 7th 07 01:10 AM

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"David L. Martel" wrote in message
...
JG,

I don't quite follow the kayak story. Why couldn't you luff your sail.
Sounds like they had the right of way and I don't think that you had an
emergency.

Dave M.



Good question... couldn't luff without going aground. They crossed in front
of me without regard to my ability to maneauver. Not sure what you mean
about an emergency, since it wasn't. I started/engaged the engine as I said
to avoid hitting them.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com





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