On Oct 13, 1:25 pm, wrote:
"Joe" wrote
That's kids stuff.

says the guy whose never done anything remotely like it.

What ? My labrisa dink will plane out and hit twenty on a good day,
and she has a tiller. Just as good as any benny! Better even.

.... This looks like a challenge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp45fL0u0QU

It is. In fact it's the BT Global Challenge.

Very cool video, thanks for the link. I like the struggle getting the
trysail set, and the wave impact that blows the guy off the windward
rail & down the companionway.

Makes you think twice about no wearing a harness. I like the guy
bashing his head on the mast aloft...good thing he had a helmet.


"Gregory Hall" wrote:
I've sailed in conditions like that before but I wasn't racing so I
didn't have to beat into it. Makes all the difference in the world when
you can run before that sort of crap.

Makes all the difference when you've got the design & rig for it.
Those boats were specifically designed to sail well in those
conditions, including to windward; you'll notice that they don't futz
around with full keels or gaff rigs etc etc. You also notice that
under trysail & storm jib (late in the vvideo) the boat is barely
crawling along on a close reach. In those conditions, many boats
couldn't make any ground to windward at all.

They look like pretty stout boats, I like the way they shiver.

Joe

DSK

That's kids stuff.


says the guy whose never done anything remotely like it.



Joe wrote:
What ? My labrisa dink will plane out and hit twenty on a good day,

?!?
Yeah right

and she has a tiller. Just as good as any benny! Better even.


Sorry Joe... "has a tiller" is not the main qualification in
determining boat performance; a dinghy like yours is a lot of fun to
sail but in NO WAY is even in the same ball park... not even the same
continent... as a sport boat, much less a skiff.

Look at it this way... it's an achievement for a foiling Moth to break
20 knots. The Swift Solo might do it under exceptional
circumstances.... a boat like a 5-0-5 will not.... the fastest I've
ever sailed a Lightning felt like 20+ but was actually timed out at
about 12k, and that was on a day when it was insane to take the boat
out (blowing 35+, eventually ordered off the lake by officials).

I'm glad that you have fun sailing the dink, but do you seriously
think it's faster than a Lightning, much less a 5-0-5? Let's not be
too delusional OK?


Very cool video, thanks for the link. I like the struggle getting the
trysail set, and the wave impact that blows the guy off the windward
rail & down the companionway.

Makes you think twice about no wearing a harness. I like the guy
bashing his head on the mast aloft...good thing he had a helmet.


True.
You'd have to be nuts to try & work on deck in conditions like that
without a harness.


Those boats were specifically designed to sail well in those
conditions, including to windward;


They look like pretty stout boats, I like the way they shiver.


Went on one at the Annapolis boat show a few years back. They are
awesome boats... not particularly fast but they would be great
passagemaker cruisers.

DSK