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Default Requesting advice on my sailboat racing plan

Richard wrote:
I want to tell you a short story to give you background, then ask for
your advice about entering a race series.

I have rearranged my schedule so that I can sail next June-October in
a Wednesday night "Beer-Can" race series. I'll be sailing a Catalina
250 or 27 in the "Cruiser" class. (No spinnakers)


Which is it? Since you say "Cruiser Class" I'm guessing that you are
racing handicap rather than one-design. The Catalina 27 has a one-
design fleet in many areas.


I would like to implement a plan that does the following:

1. Put together a crew. (Or if I can put together two crews, we can
practice/race together to keep an edge on and learn together until
June.)


That can be a challenge all by itself. Even experienced skippers with
more enticing rides can take time to pull together a good crew.


2. Begin practicing and learning on Wednesdays until June.

3. Compete and do well in the series.


Check.

My background/experience:
a. Completed beginner, intermediate and advanced U.S. Navy classes
(qualified to rent Cat 250's and Cat 27's.)
b. Crewed in a few races.
c. 100+ hours local sailing experience.


You sound like a well organized & rational person... problem is, this
is not a rational sport!

I think you would learn a LOT more, a lot faster, by racing in a 1 or
2 person unballasted one-design boats. There are far less
uncontrollable or difficult to explain (let alone fix) factors.


I have several books on racing and rules. I understand the basics of
rules, but right now, lose most rules in the heat of the moment.


As long as you have a grasp of the 4 basic situations:
port/starboard
windward/leeward
ahead/astern
overlapped at a mark or obstruction

and can keep control of the boat & your temper, you'll do fine with
rules until you are going to higher level races.


I've
ordered a bunch of sailing books.


Forget "a bunch" of books.
Get and read this one
"Start To Win" by Eric Twiname.
http://www.amazon.com/Start-Win-Eric...1362016&sr=8-1

It is by far the clearest, best-organized, and readable book on how to
do well in sailboat races. If you grasp the material in this book, you
will be schooling most any local fleet and getting silver in most
national fleets.


I'm getting a feel for rigging and getting in a groove upwind


Pointing versus footing? Shifting gears for lulls, waves, traffic?
Depowering when it's gusty?

Not ot mention boat-related issues which are all very exaggerated with
larger heavier less-uniform boats. You could put Paul Elvstrom in a
clapped-out Catalina 27 with a few barnacles and he'll lose to Joe
Sixpack with a well tuned C27. Then there's the issue of
handicapping.....

but
have no clue what I'm doing downwind. (If the strategy is anything but
head for the downwind mark, I'm not sure what course(s) to steer and
why.)


Again, a complex subject. Basically you maximize VMG according to what
options the apparent wind gives you. It's the opposite of sailing
upwind (duh) in that you *want* to go into a header. You go up in the
lulls, down in the gusts. When the is powered up just aim at the mark.

This is one reason why my advice is, if you're serious about learning
to race, start off in smaller, simpler, more evenly-matched boats. One
reason why most PHRF fleets are such cluster-f*xx is that few of them
know how to sail very well, much less untangle a complex set of wind/
boat trim/navigating priorities on the fly.



How do you like my plan?


Well, for lack of anything better, you'll meet new people and probably
have a lot of fun.


What can I do when there are no other boats around to find out how I'm
doing?


Routine drills to learn how to SAIL your boat. For example, pick a
mark like a channel bouy (when there's no traffic going by) and
practice 1 minute starts. When you can get you bow slicing a few feet
from the bouy, close hauled, right at GO, then you will be prepared to
get a good start in a racing fleet... provided you can then prioritize
getting a spot in a jumbled fleet, something you can't practice
alone.... but you stand NO chance of getting a good start until you
can get the boat ON the spot, At the second, and MOVING.

Tacking should be second nature. By which I mean, bringing the boat
around smoothly, getting up to speed & point on the new tack
efficiently. Gybing ditto, but that is actually easier at the basic
level & with low-powered boats.

Practice some man-overboard & reefing drills too. Give the crew
something fun to do and let them feel that they have an important part
to play (because they DO) in successfully getting the boat thru any
potential problems. Build confidence, too.

The guy whose advice you really want is Oz1 but he might not be
checking in here these days.

Fresh BReezes- Doug King

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Default Requesting advice on my sailboat racing plan

WOW! That's a lot of info. Let me take several points...

I have rearranged my schedule so that I can sail next June-October in
a Wednesday night "Beer-Can" race series. I'll be sailing a Catalina
250 or 27 in the "Cruiser" class. (No spinnakers)


Which is it? Since you say "Cruiser Class" I'm guessing that you are
racing handicap rather than one-design. The Catalina 27 has a one-
design fleet in many areas.


It's a handicap race. I remember our skipper working hard to cross the
finish less than 3-1/2 mins behind the guy in front. We were about 3
mins behind, so beat him.

1. Put together a crew. (Or if I can put together two crews, we can
practice/race together to keep an edge on and learn together until
June.)


That can be a challenge all by itself. Even experienced skippers with
more enticing rides can take time to pull together a good crew.


I can see that without that, nothing else will follow, so I need a
plan there. I do have access to two different marinas with weekly
classes at several levels, so a flyer or ad on their bulletin bords
seems a good idea.

I have several books on racing and rules. I understand the basics of
rules, but right now, lose most rules in the heat of the moment.


As long as you have a grasp of the 4 basic situations:
port/starboard
windward/leeward
ahead/astern
overlapped at a mark or obstruction


Got these in my head, but realize in a crowd, I'll have trouble coping
until I get more experience/confidence.

I've
ordered a bunch of sailing books.


Forget "a bunch" of books.
Get and read this one
"Start To Win" by Eric Twiname.http://www.amazon.com/Start-Win-Eric...884/ref=sr_1_1...

It is by far the clearest, best-organized, and readable book on how to
do well in sailboat races. If you grasp the material in this book, you
will be schooling most any local fleet and getting silver in most
national fleets.


I'll get it right away. Thanks!

I'm getting a feel for rigging and getting in a groove upwind


Pointing versus footing? Shifting gears for lulls, waves, traffic?
Depowering when it's gusty?


Let me rephrase: On a beginner *Sailing 101* level, I've got the idea.
But in this area, I'm nowhere near ready for the big time.

but
have no clue what I'm doing downwind. (If the strategy is anything but
head for the downwind mark, I'm not sure what course(s) to steer and
why.)


Again, a complex subject. Basically you maximize VMG according to what
options the apparent wind gives you. It's the opposite of sailing
upwind (duh) in that you *want* to go into a header. You go up in the
lulls, down in the gusts. When the is powered up just aim at the mark.


And I've read this, but know that I don't "feel" it yet. Working on
this.

What can I do when there are no other boats around to find out how I'm
doing?


Routine drills to learn how to SAIL your boat. For example, pick a
mark like a channel bouy (when there's no traffic going by) and
practice 1 minute starts. When you can get you bow slicing a few feet
from the bouy, close hauled, right at GO, then you will be prepared to
get a good start in a racing fleet... provided you can then prioritize
getting a spot in a jumbled fleet, something you can't practice
alone.... but you stand NO chance of getting a good start until you
can get the boat ON the spot, At the second, and MOVING.


THANKS! The best practical tip I've gotten so far. I can do this! I'll
work on this this weekend.

Again, thanks for your time and insights!

 
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