On Sep 27, 7:41 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:12:34 -0700, (Thom Stewart) wrote:
Bart,

I just wrote down 14 without counting Reefing, which could add one to
three adjustments, depending on how you're counting.

You will earn one imaginary point for your imaginary list, Thom. It doesn't
count ( or teach anybody anything) unless you actually post the list.

Meanwhile I can add one type of mainsail control line that no one else will
think of. The lines that control what mainsail you have on your boat. PURSE
STRINGS.

Ok, I'll bite. What the heck is a purse string?

On Sep 27, 8:34 pm, (Thom Stewart) wrote:
OK Salty;

Take Ganz's List and then add;
Hmmm... traveler, outhaul, cunningham, reefing lines (x3), leech line,
topping lift, boom vang, adjustable backstay, preventer, lazy jacks (or
Dutchman or StackPak), furling line (for boom or main), perhaps a boom
bolt
rope, I've heard of batten control lines.
---------
Flattening Reef, Downhaul or Barber haul on down for Broad Reach or Run,
Jack Stays (Port & Starboard) Upper Shrouds (P&S) Lower Shrouds(P&S)
Adjustable Mast Foot, Fore Stay.

These are all adjustments for Maconi Main. I wouldn't even know where to
start on a Junk Sail or even a Lateen Sail (I learned to sail with a
Lateen)

Salty, if you really need to know what & how to adjust; post me off
group. I don't want to be in a discussion with a Sockpuppet. I know Bart
& Ganz to be real.

JML Sigs

I was thinking about running rigging Thom. Still
I liked your answer. The flattening reef is something
others missed. There are some interesting ways
to rig a flattening reef.

On Sep 27, 10:45 pm, wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote:

How about boom brake or jibe-preventer? :-)

I'd consider that a "control line" but don't like them and have never
used them on a boat I was skippering. If you can't avoid gybing, or
keep control of the boom when gybing, then you need practice on the


DSK

Hey Doug, I can change your mind about that.
I found a use for that you would not normally
consider. I'll get back to you on it in another
thread.

Bart wrote:
On Sep 27, 7:41 pm, wrote:

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:12:34 -0700, (Thom Stewart) wrote:

Bart,

I just wrote down 14 without counting Reefing, which could add one to
three adjustments, depending on how you're counting.

You will earn one imaginary point for your imaginary list, Thom. It doesn't
count ( or teach anybody anything) unless you actually post the list.

Meanwhile I can add one type of mainsail control line that no one else will
think of. The lines that control what mainsail you have on your boat. PURSE
STRINGS.


Ok, I'll bite. What the heck is a purse string?

A purse string is a surgical stitch taken to sew shut a mare's cervix
after being bred so she does not miscarry her foal.

On Sep 28, 1:02 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
wrote in message

I agree that paying attention is the most important factor, but on downwind
runs of an hour or so, a small mistake can translate into a big problem. The
preventer is perfect for that. This is especially true when inexperienced
people are at the helm, which is fairly routine if I'm teaching.

I've known of two incidents where boats got in big trouble with a
preventer rigged. One ended up gybing anyway, turning about 120
degrees and getting stuffed when the main went aback; the other
The times I've sailed other people's boats with preventers rigged, it
always seemed more in the way than helpful.
DSK

I would qualify that by saying "many times" instead of always.
--
"j" ganz

Rigging a preventer to a winch that can be eased
quickly is essential. I don't hold to the theory that
it must be rigged from the end of the boom all the way
to the bow. I take it from the main sheet bail on
the boom to a bail or cleat on deck somewhere
around the shrouds and back to a winch.

A boom brake serves the purpose of preventing
potentially fatal injuries caused by a madly swinging
boom without the risk of forgetting to ease the
preventer. A good sailor might be able to put his
tiller down fast enough to slow the gybe, but one
moments distraction might be fatal to a crew
member.

I remember the case of a guy named Vance who
died front of his fiancee's eyes when a dramatic
windshift near the Carquinez Straits bluffs gybed
the boom across as he was returning from the
foredeck. He was dead before he hit the water.

A preventer or boom brake would have saved his
life.

On Sep 27, 7:41 pm, wrote:


Meanwhile I can add one type of mainsail control line that no one else will
think of. The lines that control what mainsail you have on your boat. PURSE
STRINGS.

Is this what you mean?

http://books.google.com/books?id=BIN... kPic80fYavg4

In article . com,
Bart wrote:
Rigging a preventer to a winch that can be eased
quickly is essential. I don't hold to the theory that
it must be rigged from the end of the boom all the way
to the bow. I take it from the main sheet bail on
the boom to a bail or cleat on deck somewhere
around the shrouds and back to a winch.

A boom brake serves the purpose of preventing
potentially fatal injuries caused by a madly swinging
boom without the risk of forgetting to ease the
preventer. A good sailor might be able to put his
tiller down fast enough to slow the gybe, but one
moments distraction might be fatal to a crew
member.

Many vangs can be removed from the foot of mast and attached to the toerail. Works great.

"katy" wrote in message
...

A purse string is a surgical stitch taken to sew shut a mare's cervix
after being bred so she does not miscarry her foal.

I know nothing about horses but that sounds like an awful thing to do. What
pain must it cause the mare if nature decides that there is something wrong
with that foetus and it needs to go?

Edgar wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...


A purse string is a surgical stitch taken to sew shut a mare's cervix
after being bred so she does not miscarry her foal.


I know nothing about horses but that sounds like an awful thing to do. What
pain must it cause the mare if nature decides that there is something wrong
with that foetus and it needs to go?


It's done on mares that have been performance horses...they tend to have
a condition where they suck air throiugh there and have spontaneous
abortion because of it...some mares are also stitched (it's one loose
stitch) when they perform also so they don't suck air...it doesn't stop
the labor process so if she is far enough along that she doesn't absorb
(horses absorb miscarriages up to a point) and goes into labor, it is
easily cut...if there was something genetically worng, chancews are she
would absorb first...when that happens they have a dirty heat and you
have the vet over for treatment...

wrote:
That's pure baloney, Bart. In any case, I have met some of the posters here in
person.

Like, who?

DSK