"Ringmaster" wrote in message
ps.com...
It's my guess that the city trash trucks beat the Boob to
the
dumpsters today so he just came back home.


looks like Doug is having a great time. No wonder the Boob
is so jealous of him.

SBV

"Ringmaster" wrote
It's my guess that the city trash trucks beat the Boob to
the
dumpsters today so he just came back home.

I just figured out why Bobsprit is so rpo-union.... garbage collector
strikes are good for his business!


"Scotty" wrote:
looks like Doug is having a great time. No wonder the Boob
is so jealous of him.


Yeah, but the Boobster is also making our hit counter spin like a
top..... money in my pocket! Thanks, Bubbles!

We are having a *GREAT* time, and one of the things I like about
a.s.a. is that most of the people here understand.... it's difficult
to explain to family & friends who aren't sailors or cruisers.

DSK

On Sep 6, 9:03 am, wrote:
"Ringmaster" wrote
It's my guess that the city trash trucks beat the Boob to
the
dumpsters today so he just came back home.

I just figured out why Bobsprit is so rpo-union.... garbage collector
strikes are good for his business!

"Scotty" wrote:
looks like Doug is having a great time. No wonder the Boob
is so jealous of him.

Yeah, but the Boobster is also making our hit counter spin like a
top..... money in my pocket! Thanks, Bubbles!

We are having a *GREAT* time, and one of the things I like about
a.s.a. is that most of the people here understand.... it's difficult
to explain to family & friends who aren't sailors or cruisers.

DSK

What's that floating thing in the water? Did you zip tie kids
floating foam to cooler tops or something? Looks like a good ideal to
help kids climb up on the transom.

Joe

Joe wrote:
What's that floating thing in the water? Did you zip tie kids
floating foam to cooler tops or something? Looks like a good ideal to
help kids climb up on the transom.


I think you mean the ramp? I built that to help the dog get aboard;
for swimming it doesn't work quite as well as I planned but now I know
how to build one that will work perfectly. It has swim noodles zip-
tied along the edge for extra flotation and to keep the dog's paws
from sliding off the edge. The problem with it is that it doesn't
quite have enough flotation for him to stand on it in the water, but
too much flotation for him to push it down and get his hind paws up
onto it. The surface is also not as good a grip as I'd hoped, it's
fiberglass molded in a sort of waffle pattern. Next one will have
deeper corrugations and a high edge. It works great as a ramp from
high docks to the deck.

It's balsa-cored fiberglass, strong enough for three people to jump on
at once and light enough for a little kid to pick up with one hand

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

it's difficult
to explain to family & friends who aren't sailors or cruisers.



That's because your family probably knows that you prefer to sail,
wanted a sailboat and that you were actively looking at cruising
sailboats, even showing Kathie a C&C at one point. Now you're driving
around in a floating RV and believing, or trying to believe that it's
what you wanted?
Who else in the sailing group has switched to power boating,
Doug...besides you?


RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
it's difficult
to explain to family & friends who aren't sailors or cruisers.



That's because your family probably knows that you prefer to sail,
wanted a sailboat and that you were actively looking at cruising
sailboats, even showing Kathie a C&C at one point. Now you're driving
around in a floating RV and believing, or trying to believe that it's
what you wanted?
Who else in the sailing group has switched to power boating,
Doug...besides you?


RB
35s5
NY

Not going to discuss Doug's personal situation because what he does is
his business but do want to address the ttopic in general.

Just what is the matter with doing something your spouse wants to do or
feels more comfortable doing? Not everyone is the same. You are
fortunate, Bob, that Suzanne likes to sail. I've known many people over
the eyars with sailboats where the wife goes along for the ride or sits
on teh dock and waits for the "floating cottage" to return, irked that
their home away from home actually left the dock. The idea that someone
would be condiserate of someone else's feelings and maybe supplant their
own interests for awhile is commendable. It shows a strong relationship
and a willingness to go the extra mile for their partner. So waht are
you going to do, if perchance, Suzanne decides one day that sailing just
isn't it anymore and that the boys, now teenagers, would really rather
have a jet boat? She will impress on you taht they've ahd it with
sailing and that as a father, your responsibility is to the family, not
to sailing. So, becasue you do not want to lose that precious link that
holds the family together, good times, you either downgrade the sailboat
so that you can have a little sojourn once in a great while and buy a
jet boat for the family, or you give up sailing entirely to immerse
yourself into the family ecperience. What's going to happen when your
boys, down the line, find out that fast and noise is more fun and that
dinking along on something that only goes 7 knots at best is rather a
dull way to spend the afternoon? Now don;t tell me you're going to
insure that that doesn't happen by totally immersing your kids in the
sailing experience. That has been knwon to backfire...I;'ve seen plenty
of sailing families whose kids have had it...they want a life on teh
weekends other than going to the marina and hanging about on a
boat...they want their friends, parties, shopping, etc. So then you have
a choice: you let them go off by themselves and suffer the consequences;
or you make them go with you and sit with a boatful of resentful kids
who whine and pule about having to be there...or...maybe you'll get
lucky...once in a while a person does and the kids take to it like ducks
out of water...most likely not, though,, it will be some combination of
the first two scenarios. Enjoy what you have now. Sail like you want
now. You can't predict the future and you shouldn't try reading into the
lives of othersthings that may not be there at all.

"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. **** Head wrote:
it's difficult
to explain to family & friends who aren't sailors or
cruisers.



That's because your family probably knows that you
prefer to sail,
wanted a sailboat and that you were actively looking at
cruising
sailboats, even showing Kathie a C&C at one point. Now
you're driving
around in a floating RV and believing, or trying to
believe that it's
what you wanted?
Who else in the sailing group has switched to power
boating,
Doug...besides you?


RB
35s5
NY

Not going to discuss Doug's personal situation because
what he does is
his business but do want to address the ttopic in general.

Just what is the matter with doing something your spouse
wants to do or
feels more comfortable doing?


From the pics, and Doug's posts, it doesn't appear that
he's languishing over his decision.

Why is Bob?

SBV

Just what is the matter with doing something your spouse wants to do
or
feels more comfortable doing? Not everyone is the same. You are
fortunate, Bob, that Suzanne likes to sail.


I agree and trust me...I'm gratefull since she's in my corner even as
I seek out a larger, faster boat for part time live aboard in a few
years.


So waht are
you going to do, if perchance, Suzanne decides one day that sailing
just
isn't it anymore and that the boys, now teenagers, would really
rather
have a jet boat?


Suzanne believes, along with me, that sailing is part of who I am and
that it makes me happy. Just like I know that having this house and
land makes her happy. Only health will force a change. If Thomas grows
to dislike sailing, that would be a shame, but I'll still sail.


She will impress on you taht they've ahd it with
sailing and that as a father, your responsibility is to the family,
not
to sailing.


I have already arranged things so that I'm home 7 days a week, while
earning good money. She works nights and will drop to two days soon.
There's time for sailing and camping and skiing and I'm open to just
about anything. The sailing will always be in our life.


What's going to happen when your
boys, down the line, find out that fast and noise is more fun and
that
dinking along on something that only goes 7 knots at best is rather a
dull way to spend the afternoon?


Well, they may feel that way. We'll see. Since we live near a dozen
lakes, we may also get a speed boat for skiing and water toys. We have
time for it all.


So then you have
a choice: you let them go off by themselves and suffer the
consequences;
or you make them go with you and sit with a boatful of resentful kids
who whine and pule about having to be there

There's a long list of kids who want to come sailing and we've taken
some. Thomas is in love with his boat. This may change, but we'll see.

...or...maybe you'll get
lucky...once in a while a person does and the kids take to it like
ducks
out of water.


For the most part I'm a pretty lucky fellow, Katy. And I mean that
honestly, knowing that it can change.


Enjoy what you have now. Sail like you want
now.


That's exactly what I'm doing. If Doug is secure and happy with his
situation and powerboating rather than sailing, then my comments will
do little more than make him laugh. So no big deal. On the other hand,
if his wife was selfish, pushing Doug away from what he dreamt of;
well that's another kettle of fish. Though I know very little about
Doug and Kathie, I actually do believe that she got what she wanted
and he didn't, while a compromise was possible. Even a Fisher 37 or
various PH shallow draft boats could have kept Doug under sail. The
poor Sundowner cruises about as fast as we do and burned fuel and
money to do it. Yuck.

And now this is for Jeff....

"Sigh...."



RB
35s5
NY

"katy" wrote in message
...


Just what is the matter with doing something your spouse
wants to do or
feels more comfortable doing? Not everyone is the same.
You are
fortunate, Bob, that Suzanne likes to sail. I've known
many people over


Katy, you seem to have some kind of 'inside thing' going on
with the boobster. Do you know why he's so frustratingly
envious of me, Doug, and Loco?

Scotty

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:44:44 -0400, katy
wrote:

Capt. Rob wrote:
it's difficult
to explain to family & friends who aren't sailors or cruisers.



That's because your family probably knows that you prefer to sail,
wanted a sailboat and that you were actively looking at cruising
sailboats, even showing Kathie a C&C at one point. Now you're driving
around in a floating RV and believing, or trying to believe that it's
what you wanted?
Who else in the sailing group has switched to power boating,
Doug...besides you?


RB
35s5
NY

Not going to discuss Doug's personal situation because what he does is
his business but do want to address the ttopic in general.

Just what is the matter with doing something your spouse wants to do or
feels more comfortable doing? Not everyone is the same. You are
fortunate, Bob, that Suzanne likes to sail. I've known many people over
the eyars with sailboats where the wife goes along for the ride or sits
on teh dock and waits for the "floating cottage" to return, irked that
their home away from home actually left the dock. The idea that someone
would be condiserate of someone else's feelings and maybe supplant their
own interests for awhile is commendable. It shows a strong relationship
and a willingness to go the extra mile for their partner. So waht are
you going to do, if perchance, Suzanne decides one day that sailing just
isn't it anymore and that the boys, now teenagers, would really rather
have a jet boat? She will impress on you taht they've ahd it with
sailing and that as a father, your responsibility is to the family, not
to sailing. So, becasue you do not want to lose that precious link that
holds the family together, good times, you either downgrade the sailboat
so that you can have a little sojourn once in a great while and buy a
jet boat for the family, or you give up sailing entirely to immerse
yourself into the family ecperience. What's going to happen when your
boys, down the line, find out that fast and noise is more fun and that
dinking along on something that only goes 7 knots at best is rather a
dull way to spend the afternoon? Now don;t tell me you're going to
insure that that doesn't happen by totally immersing your kids in the
sailing experience. That has been knwon to backfire...I;'ve seen plenty
of sailing families whose kids have had it...they want a life on teh
weekends other than going to the marina and hanging about on a
boat...they want their friends, parties, shopping, etc. So then you have
a choice: you let them go off by themselves and suffer the consequences;
or you make them go with you and sit with a boatful of resentful kids
who whine and pule about having to be there...or...maybe you'll get
lucky...once in a while a person does and the kids take to it like ducks
out of water...most likely not, though,, it will be some combination of
the first two scenarios. Enjoy what you have now. Sail like you want
now. You can't predict the future and you shouldn't try reading into the
lives of othersthings that may not be there at all.


With the exception of the occasional lapses into Katytype, you have
hit the nail on the head.

All my sons are good sailors. Yacht club, one design trained. Each
of them have gone through periods where other interests (not go fast
stuff necesarily) were more important than sailing. As adults, each
of them is showing signs they may be coming back.

Frank