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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com... On Aug 14, 7:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I got no problem. Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about? Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Joe The master I was talking about was the skipper of the vessel. You said you were going to introduce the skipper to "shotgun Annie." -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:51:56 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. One sees this kind of thing all the time. Some clown thinking he's gonna bring down the wrath of God on a miscreant by posting his story in a news group. Fact is that a posting here has about as much impact as the sound of a tree falling in a vacant wilderness. Sorta reminds me of young lawyers fresh out of law school who thunder in a temper tantrum "I'm a lawyer and I'm gonna sue you." The appropriate answer is generally, of course "So sue me." I hope people's lives don't depend on you getting your facts straight and paying attention to details. |
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:47:45 -0700, Joe
wrote this crap: Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Don't ask Jon-boy about a "master" anything. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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"Scout" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message I didn't realize you reported the incident...by all means vent away! The only thought I have is generally lawyers prefer their clients not to discuss a pending case. Since you had an injury have you talked to your insurance company? Perhaps a letter to Boat US would be in order as well. Thanks Haggie, A bruise is all but it could have been a lot worse. I will see them on the water again and would be happy just to see a change in their MO. That's for sure. Nothing like frying bacon and having some jerk pound your boat all over the place. Seahag |
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On Aug 15, 12:27 am, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 14, 7:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz -Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I got no problem. Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about? Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Joe The master I was talking about was the skipper of the vessel. You said you were going to introduce the skipper to "shotgun Annie." -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No bone head, I said these type of people need to meet Shotgun Annie. She an old lady that lives on the banks of the Atchayflaya river..Anyone whips a wake on her property she has no problem blasting at them with a shotgun. Everyone who has worked the river knows her and respects her. I've seen several boats with cracked windows, and have been on supply boats that have been peppered by her. People are lucky she uses shot and not slugs. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com... On Aug 15, 12:27 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 14, 7:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz -Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I got no problem. Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about? Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Joe The master I was talking about was the skipper of the vessel. You said you were going to introduce the skipper to "shotgun Annie." -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No bone head, I said these type of people need to meet Shotgun Annie. She an old lady that lives on the banks of the Atchayflaya river..Anyone whips a wake on her property she has no problem blasting at them with a shotgun. Everyone who has worked the river knows her and respects her. I've seen several boats with cracked windows, and have been on supply boats that have been peppered by her. People are lucky she uses shot and not slugs. Joe So, what you're saying is that someone else is going to threaten them with a gun. Wow, I was so wrong! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 15, 12:27 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 14, 7:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz -Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I got no problem. Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about? Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Joe The master I was talking about was the skipper of the vessel. You said you were going to introduce the skipper to "shotgun Annie." -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No bone head, I said these type of people need to meet Shotgun Annie. She an old lady that lives on the banks of the Atchayflaya river..Anyone whips a wake on her property she has no problem blasting at them with a shotgun. Everyone who has worked the river knows her and respects her. I've seen several boats with cracked windows, and have been on supply boats that have been peppered by her. People are lucky she uses shot and not slugs. Joe So, what you're saying is that someone else is going to threaten them with a gun. Wow, I was so wrong! Maybe some people don't think snitching is the answer to everything? Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Aug 15, 11:49 am, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 15, 12:27 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message groups.com... On Aug 14, 7:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz -Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - I got no problem. Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about? Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Joe The master I was talking about was the skipper of the vessel. You said you were going to introduce the skipper to "shotgun Annie." -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No bone head, I said these type of people need to meet Shotgun Annie. She an old lady that lives on the banks of the Atchayflaya river..Anyone whips a wake on her property she has no problem blasting at them with a shotgun. Everyone who has worked the river knows her and respects her. I've seen several boats with cracked windows, and have been on supply boats that have been peppered by her. People are lucky she uses shot and not slugs. Joe So, what you're saying is that someone else is going to threaten them with a gun. Wow, I was so wrong! -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No dunder head.... Annie did not threaten anyone with anything, she acted to protect what was hers. I'd never threaten anyone with a gun...that's just plain stupid. However I would find the boat and deal with the issue in person. Why you would feel the need to involve a glorified landlords yes boy , is beyond me. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com... On Aug 15, 11:49 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 15, 12:27 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message groups.com... On Aug 14, 7:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz -Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - I got no problem. Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about? Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Joe The master I was talking about was the skipper of the vessel. You said you were going to introduce the skipper to "shotgun Annie." -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No bone head, I said these type of people need to meet Shotgun Annie. She an old lady that lives on the banks of the Atchayflaya river..Anyone whips a wake on her property she has no problem blasting at them with a shotgun. Everyone who has worked the river knows her and respects her. I've seen several boats with cracked windows, and have been on supply boats that have been peppered by her. People are lucky she uses shot and not slugs. Joe So, what you're saying is that someone else is going to threaten them with a gun. Wow, I was so wrong! -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No dunder head.... Annie did not threaten anyone with anything, she acted to protect what was hers. I'd never threaten anyone with a gun...that's just plain stupid. However I would find the boat and deal with the issue in person. Why you would feel the need to involve a glorified landlords yes boy , is beyond me. Joe Threatening someone with a gun isn't the answer. If she's been shooting at people, what do you call it? If she killed or injured someone, she would surely go to jail, even if they did have a bothersome wake. You just advocated it. And, when the skipper tells you to drop dead, then what? ... as opposed to the person who actually controls whether or not they can do business in the marina? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Aug 15, 1:42 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 15, 11:49 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 15, 12:27 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message groups.com... On Aug 14, 7:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text - I got no problem. Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about? Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Joe The master I was talking about was the skipper of the vessel. You said you were going to introduce the skipper to "shotgun Annie." -- "j" ganz -Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - No bone head, I said these type of people need to meet Shotgun Annie. She an old lady that lives on the banks of the Atchayflaya river..Anyone whips a wake on her property she has no problem blasting at them with a shotgun. Everyone who has worked the river knows her and respects her. I've seen several boats with cracked windows, and have been on supply boats that have been peppered by her. People are lucky she uses shot and not slugs. Joe So, what you're saying is that someone else is going to threaten them with a gun. Wow, I was so wrong! -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No dunder head.... Annie did not threaten anyone with anything, she acted to protect what was hers. I'd never threaten anyone with a gun...that's just plain stupid. However I would find the boat and deal with the issue in person. Why you would feel the need to involve a glorified landlords yes boy , is beyond me. Joe Threatening someone with a gun isn't the answer. If she's been shooting at people, what do you call it? She's been shooting at boats since the 1940's. I call it effective errosion control. If she killed or injured someone, she would surely go to jail, even if they did have a bothersome wake. Ya think so Jonboy? Have you ever been in the Atchafalaya swamp? Don't you think she has been reported a 100+ times...to the point where the local yocals say something like " tough ****...better slow down next time" You just advocated it. To each his own.. And, when the skipper tells you to drop dead, then what? Follow through with the proper actions. ... as opposed to the person who actually controls whether or not they can do business in the marina? As opposed to the person who can arrest them, and take away his licences. You assume I would go in Shotguns a blazing Jon. Not so..but I'd rather adress the issue face to face with the Captain who injured my crew..vs leaving my duties to others to make sure proper actions are taken. Harbor Master...bwahahahahaa does he wear a special uniform ? Joe -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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