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Duty, Honor, Safety
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com... On Aug 15, 11:49 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 15, 12:27 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message groups.com... On Aug 14, 7:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz -Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - I got no problem. Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about? Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Joe The master I was talking about was the skipper of the vessel. You said you were going to introduce the skipper to "shotgun Annie." -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No bone head, I said these type of people need to meet Shotgun Annie. She an old lady that lives on the banks of the Atchayflaya river..Anyone whips a wake on her property she has no problem blasting at them with a shotgun. Everyone who has worked the river knows her and respects her. I've seen several boats with cracked windows, and have been on supply boats that have been peppered by her. People are lucky she uses shot and not slugs. Joe So, what you're saying is that someone else is going to threaten them with a gun. Wow, I was so wrong! -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No dunder head.... Annie did not threaten anyone with anything, she acted to protect what was hers. I'd never threaten anyone with a gun...that's just plain stupid. However I would find the boat and deal with the issue in person. Why you would feel the need to involve a glorified landlords yes boy , is beyond me. Joe Threatening someone with a gun isn't the answer. If she's been shooting at people, what do you call it? If she killed or injured someone, she would surely go to jail, even if they did have a bothersome wake. You just advocated it. And, when the skipper tells you to drop dead, then what? ... as opposed to the person who actually controls whether or not they can do business in the marina? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Aug 15, 1:42 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 15, 11:49 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 15, 12:27 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message groups.com... On Aug 14, 7:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text - I got no problem. Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about? Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Joe The master I was talking about was the skipper of the vessel. You said you were going to introduce the skipper to "shotgun Annie." -- "j" ganz -Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - No bone head, I said these type of people need to meet Shotgun Annie. She an old lady that lives on the banks of the Atchayflaya river..Anyone whips a wake on her property she has no problem blasting at them with a shotgun. Everyone who has worked the river knows her and respects her. I've seen several boats with cracked windows, and have been on supply boats that have been peppered by her. People are lucky she uses shot and not slugs. Joe So, what you're saying is that someone else is going to threaten them with a gun. Wow, I was so wrong! -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No dunder head.... Annie did not threaten anyone with anything, she acted to protect what was hers. I'd never threaten anyone with a gun...that's just plain stupid. However I would find the boat and deal with the issue in person. Why you would feel the need to involve a glorified landlords yes boy , is beyond me. Joe Threatening someone with a gun isn't the answer. If she's been shooting at people, what do you call it? She's been shooting at boats since the 1940's. I call it effective errosion control. If she killed or injured someone, she would surely go to jail, even if they did have a bothersome wake. Ya think so Jonboy? Have you ever been in the Atchafalaya swamp? Don't you think she has been reported a 100+ times...to the point where the local yocals say something like " tough ****...better slow down next time" You just advocated it. To each his own.. And, when the skipper tells you to drop dead, then what? Follow through with the proper actions. ... as opposed to the person who actually controls whether or not they can do business in the marina? As opposed to the person who can arrest them, and take away his licences. You assume I would go in Shotguns a blazing Jon. Not so..but I'd rather adress the issue face to face with the Captain who injured my crew..vs leaving my duties to others to make sure proper actions are taken. Harbor Master...bwahahahahaa does he wear a special uniform ? Joe -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com... On Aug 15, 1:42 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 15, 11:49 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 15, 12:27 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message groups.com... On Aug 14, 7:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text - I got no problem. Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about? Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Joe The master I was talking about was the skipper of the vessel. You said you were going to introduce the skipper to "shotgun Annie." -- "j" ganz -Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - No bone head, I said these type of people need to meet Shotgun Annie. She an old lady that lives on the banks of the Atchayflaya river..Anyone whips a wake on her property she has no problem blasting at them with a shotgun. Everyone who has worked the river knows her and respects her. I've seen several boats with cracked windows, and have been on supply boats that have been peppered by her. People are lucky she uses shot and not slugs. Joe So, what you're saying is that someone else is going to threaten them with a gun. Wow, I was so wrong! -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No dunder head.... Annie did not threaten anyone with anything, she acted to protect what was hers. I'd never threaten anyone with a gun...that's just plain stupid. However I would find the boat and deal with the issue in person. Why you would feel the need to involve a glorified landlords yes boy , is beyond me. Joe Threatening someone with a gun isn't the answer. If she's been shooting at people, what do you call it? She's been shooting at boats since the 1940's. I call it effective errosion control. If she killed or injured someone, she would surely go to jail, even if they did have a bothersome wake. Ya think so Jonboy? Have you ever been in the Atchafalaya swamp? Don't you think she has been reported a 100+ times...to the point where the local yocals say something like " tough ****...better slow down next time" You just advocated it. To each his own.. And, when the skipper tells you to drop dead, then what? Follow through with the proper actions. ... as opposed to the person who actually controls whether or not they can do business in the marina? As opposed to the person who can arrest them, and take away his licences. You assume I would go in Shotguns a blazing Jon. Not so..but I'd rather adress the issue face to face with the Captain who injured my crew..vs leaving my duties to others to make sure proper actions are taken. Harbor Master...bwahahahahaa does he wear a special uniform ? Joe -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Last I checked, the CG won't do anything unless they witness it; whereas, the harbor master will. If the skipper is smart, s/he will admit to nothing. So, what does that get you? Ours doesn't need a uniform to be in charge. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Aug 15, 7:42 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 15, 1:42 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 15, 11:49 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 15, 12:27 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message groups.com... On Aug 14, 7:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - I got no problem. Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about? Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Joe The master I was talking about was the skipper of the vessel. You said you were going to introduce the skipper to "shotgun Annie." -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text - No bone head, I said these type of people need to meet Shotgun Annie. She an old lady that lives on the banks of the Atchayflaya river..Anyone whips a wake on her property she has no problem blasting at them with a shotgun. Everyone who has worked the river knows her and respects her. I've seen several boats with cracked windows, and have been on supply boats that have been peppered by her. People are lucky she uses shot and not slugs. Joe So, what you're saying is that someone else is going to threaten them with a gun. Wow, I was so wrong! -- "j" ganz -Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - No dunder head.... Annie did not threaten anyone with anything, she acted to protect what was hers. I'd never threaten anyone with a gun...that's just plain stupid. However I would find the boat and deal with the issue in person. Why you would feel the need to involve a glorified landlords yes boy , is beyond me. Joe Threatening someone with a gun isn't the answer. If she's been shooting at people, what do you call it? She's been shooting at boats since the 1940's. I call it effective errosion control. If she killed or injured someone, she would surely go to jail, even if they did have a bothersome wake. Ya think so Jonboy? Have you ever been in the Atchafalaya swamp? Don't you think she has been reported a 100+ times...to the point where the local yocals say something like " tough ****...better slow down next time" You just advocated it. To each his own.. And, when the skipper tells you to drop dead, then what? Follow through with the proper actions. ... as opposed to the person who actually controls whether or not they can do business in the marina? As opposed to the person who can arrest them, and take away his licences. You assume I would go in Shotguns a blazing Jon. Not so..but I'd rather adress the issue face to face with the Captain who injured my crew..vs leaving my duties to others to make sure proper actions are taken. Harbor Master...bwahahahahaa does he wear a special uniform ? Joe -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Last I checked, the CG won't do anything unless they witness it; whereas, the harbor master will. If the skipper is smart, s/he will admit to nothing. So, what does that get you? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Guess if someone get's squished to death between two boat...unless the CG see it they are not going to investigate. And FYI Title 33 CFR part 173 provides guidance in regards to accident reporting. As a licenced Captain you should know that if someone is injured and needs medical assitance you are required by law to report the incident. Are you sure you passed an exam to get a licences? Joe Ours doesn't need a uniform to be in charge. -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com... On Aug 15, 7:42 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 15, 1:42 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 15, 11:49 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 15, 12:27 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message groups.com... On Aug 14, 7:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - I got no problem. Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about? Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Joe The master I was talking about was the skipper of the vessel. You said you were going to introduce the skipper to "shotgun Annie." -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text - No bone head, I said these type of people need to meet Shotgun Annie. She an old lady that lives on the banks of the Atchayflaya river..Anyone whips a wake on her property she has no problem blasting at them with a shotgun. Everyone who has worked the river knows her and respects her. I've seen several boats with cracked windows, and have been on supply boats that have been peppered by her. People are lucky she uses shot and not slugs. Joe So, what you're saying is that someone else is going to threaten them with a gun. Wow, I was so wrong! -- "j" ganz -Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - No dunder head.... Annie did not threaten anyone with anything, she acted to protect what was hers. I'd never threaten anyone with a gun...that's just plain stupid. However I would find the boat and deal with the issue in person. Why you would feel the need to involve a glorified landlords yes boy , is beyond me. Joe Threatening someone with a gun isn't the answer. If she's been shooting at people, what do you call it? She's been shooting at boats since the 1940's. I call it effective errosion control. If she killed or injured someone, she would surely go to jail, even if they did have a bothersome wake. Ya think so Jonboy? Have you ever been in the Atchafalaya swamp? Don't you think she has been reported a 100+ times...to the point where the local yocals say something like " tough ****...better slow down next time" You just advocated it. To each his own.. And, when the skipper tells you to drop dead, then what? Follow through with the proper actions. ... as opposed to the person who actually controls whether or not they can do business in the marina? As opposed to the person who can arrest them, and take away his licences. You assume I would go in Shotguns a blazing Jon. Not so..but I'd rather adress the issue face to face with the Captain who injured my crew..vs leaving my duties to others to make sure proper actions are taken. Harbor Master...bwahahahahaa does he wear a special uniform ? Joe -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Last I checked, the CG won't do anything unless they witness it; whereas, the harbor master will. If the skipper is smart, s/he will admit to nothing. So, what does that get you? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Guess if someone get's squished to death between two boat...unless the CG see it they are not going to investigate. And FYI Title 33 CFR part 173 provides guidance in regards to accident reporting. As a licenced Captain you should know that if someone is injured and needs medical assitance you are required by law to report the incident. Are you sure you passed an exam to get a licences? Joe Ours doesn't need a uniform to be in charge. -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And, what I said was that unless you're able to prove it, they're just going to say they can't do anything. There's a big difference between someone going over the speed limit and someone being injured or property damaged. The harbor master can deal with the former easily and quickly. The CG probably won't do anything. Of course, you can always confront them with Annie if you think that'll help your cause. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Aug 15, 7:42 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 15, 1:42 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 15, 11:49 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 15, 12:27 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message groups.com... On Aug 14, 7:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - I got no problem. Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about? Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Joe The master I was talking about was the skipper of the vessel. You said you were going to introduce the skipper to "shotgun Annie." -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text - No bone head, I said these type of people need to meet Shotgun Annie. She an old lady that lives on the banks of the Atchayflaya river..Anyone whips a wake on her property she has no problem blasting at them with a shotgun. Everyone who has worked the river knows her and respects her. I've seen several boats with cracked windows, and have been on supply boats that have been peppered by her. People are lucky she uses shot and not slugs. Joe So, what you're saying is that someone else is going to threaten them with a gun. Wow, I was so wrong! -- "j" ganz -Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - No dunder head.... Annie did not threaten anyone with anything, she acted to protect what was hers. I'd never threaten anyone with a gun...that's just plain stupid. However I would find the boat and deal with the issue in person. Why you would feel the need to involve a glorified landlords yes boy , is beyond me. Joe Threatening someone with a gun isn't the answer. If she's been shooting at people, what do you call it? She's been shooting at boats since the 1940's. I call it effective errosion control. If she killed or injured someone, she would surely go to jail, even if they did have a bothersome wake. Ya think so Jonboy? Have you ever been in the Atchafalaya swamp? Don't you think she has been reported a 100+ times...to the point where the local yocals say something like " tough ****...better slow down next time" You just advocated it. To each his own.. And, when the skipper tells you to drop dead, then what? Follow through with the proper actions. ... as opposed to the person who actually controls whether or not they can do business in the marina? As opposed to the person who can arrest them, and take away his licences. You assume I would go in Shotguns a blazing Jon. Not so..but I'd rather adress the issue face to face with the Captain who injured my crew..vs leaving my duties to others to make sure proper actions are taken. Harbor Master...bwahahahahaa does he wear a special uniform ? Joe -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - If the skipper is smart, s/he will admit to nothing. That's the second dumbest thing you said BTW. If s/he did that then he or she is an idiot and a liar. Most good skippers admit to the mistakes they make and learn from them. Is a liar & coward the type of Captain you would want running your boat? Or would you rather have one that will stand up like a man and take responsibility for his actions? So, what does that get you? I think the title of the OP by Scout might give you a clue. Ours doesn't need a uniform to be in charge. No doubt.. Joe -- "j" ganz - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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ps.com... On Aug 15, 7:42 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 15, 1:42 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 15, 11:49 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 15, 12:27 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message groups.com... On Aug 14, 7:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 14, 11:29 am, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com... On Aug 13, 7:51 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Seahag" wrote in message news:Zj5wi.2466$tU4.930@trndny03... "Capt. JG" wrote: "roger" wrote: Isn't everyone legally liable for their wake? I thought that you could sue if you suffered an injury but I don't know. Who knows, maybe there was a medical emergency or something. Yup.. you got it right. While I feel for the guy, seems like he should have reported it to the proper authorities instead of bad-mouthing the boat all over the internet. Seahag I agree... it kinda diminishes the incident. Bull****. Beats calling the Harbor Master and hoping he does not laugh his ass off as you stomp out of the office.. Gee I wonder if the Harbor master would rather have a crewboat in his marina paying a couple of grand a mo. or some boo hooin putz on a small sailboat. Joe -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - Don't know what it's like in Texas, but here the hbs are very protective of their marina and the people, commercial or pleasure-boaters. Most of the people know the hb and given the prices of the slips, they would prefer to have the sailboats than the fishing boats. If the hb did nothing, they could be liable. Can't help it if your complaints are laughed at, however. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - We have no such thing as a Harbor Master. I do not need a parking lot cop type Harbor master to snitch to. I'd find the boat and deal with the skipper directly if he injured a crewmember. And deal directly with the USCG to get his ticket pulled. These kind of people need to meet shotgun Annie on the Atachaflya river. It would be the last time they felt like wipping a wake on someone. Joe What is your problem? Every marina out here has a harbor master. They handle the issues of the marina, rent slips, run the fuel docks, etc. The CG would certainly be the appropriate authority to investigate injury or damage due to wakes. The master would likely ignore you. Of course, your solution is to threaten, but that's not a shocker. -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text - I got no problem. Threaten who? Wtf are you talking about? Just what makes a harbor master a "Master" of anything? Cuz the land lord says so? Joe The master I was talking about was the skipper of the vessel. You said you were going to introduce the skipper to "shotgun Annie." -- "j" ganz -Hidequotedtext - - Show quoted text - No bone head, I said these type of people need to meet Shotgun Annie. She an old lady that lives on the banks of the Atchayflaya river..Anyone whips a wake on her property she has no problem blasting at them with a shotgun. Everyone who has worked the river knows her and respects her. I've seen several boats with cracked windows, and have been on supply boats that have been peppered by her. People are lucky she uses shot and not slugs. Joe So, what you're saying is that someone else is going to threaten them with a gun. Wow, I was so wrong! -- "j" ganz -Hidequoted text - - Show quoted text - No dunder head.... Annie did not threaten anyone with anything, she acted to protect what was hers. I'd never threaten anyone with a gun...that's just plain stupid. However I would find the boat and deal with the issue in person. Why you would feel the need to involve a glorified landlords yes boy , is beyond me. Joe Threatening someone with a gun isn't the answer. If she's been shooting at people, what do you call it? She's been shooting at boats since the 1940's. I call it effective errosion control. If she killed or injured someone, she would surely go to jail, even if they did have a bothersome wake. Ya think so Jonboy? Have you ever been in the Atchafalaya swamp? Don't you think she has been reported a 100+ times...to the point where the local yocals say something like " tough ****...better slow down next time" You just advocated it. To each his own.. And, when the skipper tells you to drop dead, then what? Follow through with the proper actions. ... as opposed to the person who actually controls whether or not they can do business in the marina? As opposed to the person who can arrest them, and take away his licences. You assume I would go in Shotguns a blazing Jon. Not so..but I'd rather adress the issue face to face with the Captain who injured my crew..vs leaving my duties to others to make sure proper actions are taken. Harbor Master...bwahahahahaa does he wear a special uniform ? Joe -- "j" ganz -Hide quoted text - If the skipper is smart, s/he will admit to nothing. That's the second dumbest thing you said BTW. If s/he did that then he or she is an idiot and a liar. Most good skippers admit to the mistakes they make and learn from them. Is a liar & coward the type of Captain you would want running your boat? Or would you rather have one that will stand up like a man and take responsibility for his actions? So, what does that get you? I think the title of the OP by Scout might give you a clue. Ours doesn't need a uniform to be in charge. No doubt.. Joe You're starting to rant Joe. You're saying that someone who supposedly broke the law, especially a captain with a license, and knew it, would then admit it? No doubt that they're already doing something illegal, but I suppose someone with truly limited intelligence is going to admit that to a complete stranger. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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