Somebody slap otnmbrd. Teach the guy how to stack shipping containers.

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Wilbur Hubbard

A. I'm not Italian
B. I prefer tankers



"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:469aeec8$0
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Somebody slap otnmbrd. Teach the guy how to stack shipping containers.

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Wilbur Hubbard

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
25.201...

A. I'm not Italian
B. I prefer tankers



"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:469aeec8$0
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Somebody slap otnmbrd. Teach the guy how to stack shipping containers.

http://kapsi.fi/~anpurola/temp/1184318230469.jpg

Wilbur Hubbard





Tankers? Do you have a death wish? Or are those things safe?

"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
25.201...

A. I'm not Italian
B. I prefer tankers



"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
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Somebody slap otnmbrd. Teach the guy how to stack shipping
containers.

http://kapsi.fi/~anpurola/temp/1184318230469.jpg

Wilbur Hubbard





Tankers? Do you have a death wish? Or are those things safe?


Dangerous as all get out!

I recall a couple years ago an LP tanker exploded and burned somewhere
out of New York on the eastern seaboard. All hands lost. The ship sunk
in deep water. If captain and crew aren't any more careful with propane
than they are with the containers I sure wouldn't want to be anywhere
near it.

But, don't pay no mind to otnmbrd. He's all washed up. He used to
captain the big ships but now they've relegated him to pilot duty where
he can't get into any trouble. Seems his eyes ain't what they used to
be. Anybody can drive a ship in a marked channel with tugboats assisting
to steer them. The nerve of those panty-waist pilots. They got it set up
so they have a job even when they have glasses as thick as Mr. Magoo.

Here you have a case where a captain, who is familiar with his ship,
pilots the damned thing across oceans in all kinds of weather and all
kinds of seas and traffic conditions and along comes some member of the
over-the-hill gang taking over running the ship the captain can run at
least four or five times better. For crying out loud!

Wilbur Hubbard

ROFL You know about as much about ships/tankers/pilots as my dog
does......





"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
anews.com:

Dangerous as all get out!

I recall a couple years ago an LP tanker exploded and burned somewhere
out of New York on the eastern seaboard. All hands lost. The ship sunk
in deep water. If captain and crew aren't any more careful with
propane than they are with the containers I sure wouldn't want to be
anywhere near it.

But, don't pay no mind to otnmbrd. He's all washed up. He used to
captain the big ships but now they've relegated him to pilot duty
where he can't get into any trouble. Seems his eyes ain't what they
used to be. Anybody can drive a ship in a marked channel with tugboats
assisting to steer them. The nerve of those panty-waist pilots. They
got it set up so they have a job even when they have glasses as thick
as Mr. Magoo.

Here you have a case where a captain, who is familiar with his ship,
pilots the damned thing across oceans in all kinds of weather and all
kinds of seas and traffic conditions and along comes some member of
the over-the-hill gang taking over running the ship the captain can
run at least four or five times better. For crying out loud!

Wilbur Hubbard

"Capt. Lewry" wrote in
et:


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
Give me a nice fully loaded tanker with all sorts of GM in a nasty sea, any
day.
If your worried about explosions..... the only time that's really a concern
is during tank cleaning.... the gas freeing stage.




25.201...

A. I'm not Italian
B. I prefer tankers



"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
news:469aeec8$0 :

Somebody slap otnmbrd. Teach the guy how to stack shipping
containers.

http://kapsi.fi/~anpurola/temp/1184318230469.jpg

Wilbur Hubbard





Tankers? Do you have a death wish? Or are those things safe?

It's simpler than that... dog do.

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
25.201...

ROFL You know about as much about ships/tankers/pilots as my dog
does......





"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
anews.com:

Dangerous as all get out!

I recall a couple years ago an LP tanker exploded and burned somewhere
out of New York on the eastern seaboard. All hands lost. The ship sunk
in deep water. If captain and crew aren't any more careful with
propane than they are with the containers I sure wouldn't want to be
anywhere near it.

But, don't pay no mind to otnmbrd. He's all washed up. He used to
captain the big ships but now they've relegated him to pilot duty
where he can't get into any trouble. Seems his eyes ain't what they
used to be. Anybody can drive a ship in a marked channel with tugboats
assisting to steer them. The nerve of those panty-waist pilots. They
got it set up so they have a job even when they have glasses as thick
as Mr. Magoo.

Here you have a case where a captain, who is familiar with his ship,
pilots the damned thing across oceans in all kinds of weather and all
kinds of seas and traffic conditions and along comes some member of
the over-the-hill gang taking over running the ship the captain can
run at least four or five times better. For crying out loud!

Wilbur Hubbard





--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:55:18 GMT, otnmbrd
wrote:

"Capt. Lewry" wrote in
. net:


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
Give me a nice fully loaded tanker with all sorts of GM in a nasty sea, any
day.
If your worried about explosions..... the only time that's really a concern
is during tank cleaning.... the gas freeing stage.

When I was watertending on Great Lake tankers deck hands would toss
some hundreds of pounds of dry ice in the empty tanks before we
refilled. Supposedly suppressed the generation of static electricity.
I preferred to be ashore. Do they still do that?

--Vic

I hear offloading an LNG ship is the most worrisome time.

Scotty
"otnmbrd" wrote in message
25.201...
"Capt. Lewry" wrote in
et:


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
Give me a nice fully loaded tanker with all sorts of GM in
a nasty sea, any
day.
If your worried about explosions..... the only time that's
really a concern
is during tank cleaning.... the gas freeing stage.





25.201...

A. I'm not Italian
B. I prefer tankers



"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote
in
news:469aeec8$0
:

Somebody slap otnmbrd. Teach the guy how to stack
shipping
containers.

http://kapsi.fi/~anpurola/temp/1184318230469.jpg

Wilbur Hubbard





Tankers? Do you have a death wish? Or are those things
safe?

I've never sailed on these types. There are some very strict procedures
that must be followed when loading/discharging these ship.
If you look at a number of examples of tanker explosions (barring war)
you'll see most occur during tank cleaning, gas freeing, repairs.
When VLCC's and ULCC's first came into existence there were a number of
explosions during tank cleaning. It was found that due to the size of the
tanks, when cleaning a condition much like a thunderstorm was created in
the tanks and when the oxygen gas mixture got correct.....boom. Hence the
reason for IG (inert gas) and COW (crude oil washing).

I hear offloading an LNG ship is the most worrisome time.

Scotty