"KLC Lewis" wrote in
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"Ed Gordon" wrote in message
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in
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It would be dumb to sail back. What they'd be doing is more like a
delivery captain trip. Have two adverturesome young men sail down
each taking a Mac26M and sailing in company for safety. Deliver the
boats and make about 20 grand profit or more each. Then fly back to
California and do it again. What's an airline ticket cost from
Australia to California? Two grand? That's a eighteen grand profit
for about a month's work. You could do as many trips as you could
during the off season to not run into typhoons. I think you could do
six trips a year by flying back. According to sailing instructions
it's a downwind milk run from California to Australia. You'd have to
cross a bit of doldrums around Hawaii but then you're in the trades
and going like all getout right for Australia. Remember how Capt.
Bligh went from Tahiti all the way past Australia in an open row
boat? It would be a piece of cake in a Mac.

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Cheerio,
Ed Gordon
http://www.freewebs.com/egordon873/index.htm

FWIW, "World Cruising Routes" puts it at 3563 miles from San Diego to
Tahiti, non-stop. This alone is in excess of a month of sailing,
without landfall, in your Mac. A month's worth of food, water, fuel,
etc. This is assuming you make good time and have no delays crossing
the ITCZ. Forget about using the ballast tanks for storing drinking
water, as you are going to NEED that ballast. And since the vessel is
not equipped with light air sails, it would be best to allow at least
45 days for this passage alone, with the distinct possibility that it
could take longer.

Tahiti to New Zealand is another 2500 miles or so -- in reverse. But
you can't go that way. You'll go first to Tonga, then head south. Make
it 3000 -- another month. New Zealand to Australia is another 1200 or
so, perhaps two weeks.

Still think it's doable? We're not even talking about the wear and
tear on the "brand new" Mac, or taking time for repairs along the way.
Or rest for the crew, or stopping for supplies...




It's longer than I thought. How about this? Buy the Macs on the US east
coast and then go to Australia via Cape Horn. That way it would be
westerly winds the whole way. Just stay on the edge of the roaring 40s
so it wouldn't be too rough and it would be a milk run the whole way.
One could re-provision in South Africa. Going across the Equator south
of the Windwards would be the only light wind area.

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Cheerio,
Ed Gordon
http://www.freewebs.com/egordon873/index.htm

Ed Gordon wrote in
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in
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"Ed Gordon" wrote in message
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in
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It would be dumb to sail back. What they'd be doing is more like a
delivery captain trip. Have two adverturesome young men sail down
each taking a Mac26M and sailing in company for safety. Deliver the
boats and make about 20 grand profit or more each. Then fly back to
California and do it again. What's an airline ticket cost from
Australia to California? Two grand? That's a eighteen grand profit
for about a month's work. You could do as many trips as you could
during the off season to not run into typhoons. I think you could do
six trips a year by flying back. According to sailing instructions
it's a downwind milk run from California to Australia. You'd have to
cross a bit of doldrums around Hawaii but then you're in the trades
and going like all getout right for Australia. Remember how Capt.
Bligh went from Tahiti all the way past Australia in an open row
boat? It would be a piece of cake in a Mac.

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Cheerio,
Ed Gordon
http://www.freewebs.com/egordon873/index.htm

FWIW, "World Cruising Routes" puts it at 3563 miles from San Diego to
Tahiti, non-stop. This alone is in excess of a month of sailing,
without landfall, in your Mac. A month's worth of food, water, fuel,
etc. This is assuming you make good time and have no delays crossing
the ITCZ. Forget about using the ballast tanks for storing drinking
water, as you are going to NEED that ballast. And since the vessel is
not equipped with light air sails, it would be best to allow at least
45 days for this passage alone, with the distinct possibility that it
could take longer.

Tahiti to New Zealand is another 2500 miles or so -- in reverse. But
you can't go that way. You'll go first to Tonga, then head south.
Make it 3000 -- another month. New Zealand to Australia is another
1200 or so, perhaps two weeks.

Still think it's doable? We're not even talking about the wear and
tear on the "brand new" Mac, or taking time for repairs along the
way. Or rest for the crew, or stopping for supplies...




It's longer than I thought. How about this? Buy the Macs on the US
east coast and then go to Australia via Cape Horn. That way it would
be westerly winds the whole way. Just stay on the edge of the roaring
40s so it wouldn't be too rough and it would be a milk run the whole
way. One could re-provision in South Africa. Going across the Equator
south of the Windwards would be the only light wind area.


I meant Cape of Good Hope. Sorry.

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Cheerio,
Ed Gordon
http://www.freewebs.com/egordon873/index.htm

"Ed Gordon" wrote in message
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I meant Cape of Good Hope. Sorry.

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Cheerio,
Ed Gordon
http://www.freewebs.com/egordon873/index.htm

Ah, well that's a bit different. North America to South Africa is only 7000
miles. Another 12,000 or so might put you in Australia, but it's hard to
say. There are no recognised cruising routes from Cape of Good Hope to
Australia -- perhaps you could write a book on it?

KLC Lewis wrote:
"Ed Gordon" wrote in message
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I meant Cape of Good Hope. Sorry.

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Cheerio,
Ed Gordon
http://www.freewebs.com/egordon873/index.htm


Ah, well that's a bit different. North America to South Africa is only 7000
miles. Another 12,000 or so might put you in Australia, but it's hard to
say. There are no recognised cruising routes from Cape of Good Hope to
Australia -- perhaps you could write a book on it?



I'd be more willing to try that in my Catalina 18 than a Mac.
Sheesh!

cavelamb himself wrote in
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KLC Lewis wrote:
"Ed Gordon" wrote in message
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I meant Cape of Good Hope. Sorry.

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Cheerio,
Ed Gordon
http://www.freewebs.com/egordon873/index.htm


Ah, well that's a bit different. North America to South Africa is
only 7000 miles. Another 12,000 or so might put you in Australia, but
it's hard to say. There are no recognised cruising routes from Cape
of Good Hope to Australia -- perhaps you could write a book on it?



I'd be more willing to try that in my Catalina 18 than a Mac.
Sheesh!




But the Catalina 18 is relatively worthless in Australia. (or anywhere
else I guess) You must have missed the original post where they said a
new Mac26M was selling for $75,000 in Australia. That's seems like an
opportunity for some young adverturers to make some serious cash and put
some spice in their life.

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Cheerio,
Ed Gordon
http://www.freewebs.com/egordon873/index.htm

Ed Gordon wrote:
cavelamb himself wrote in
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KLC Lewis wrote:

"Ed Gordon" wrote in message
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I meant Cape of Good Hope. Sorry.

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Cheerio,
Ed Gordon
http://www.freewebs.com/egordon873/index.htm


Ah, well that's a bit different. North America to South Africa is
only 7000 miles. Another 12,000 or so might put you in Australia, but
it's hard to say. There are no recognised cruising routes from Cape
of Good Hope to Australia -- perhaps you could write a book on it?



I'd be more willing to try that in my Catalina 18 than a Mac.
Sheesh!





But the Catalina 18 is relatively worthless in Australia. (or anywhere
else I guess) You must have missed the original post where they said a
new Mac26M was selling for $75,000 in Australia. That's seems like an
opportunity for some young adverturers to make some serious cash and put
some spice in their life.


I bought it for a completely different reason -

to sail.

Not FOR Sale.


Sheesh!

"Ed Gordon" wrote in message
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in
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It's longer than I thought. How about this? Buy the Macs on the US east
coast and then go to Australia via Cape Horn. That way it would be
westerly winds the whole way. Just stay on the edge of the roaring 40s
so it wouldn't be too rough and it would be a milk run the whole way.
One could re-provision in South Africa. Going across the Equator south
of the Windwards would be the only light wind area.

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Cheerio,
Ed Gordon
http://www.freewebs.com/egordon873/index.htm

Wrong way around Cape Horn in a Mac? A month or more in the roaring 40's and
possibly some time in the Furious 50's? Again, going the wrong way? No
thanks. While I MIGHT consider rounding Cape Horn in a suitable vessel, I
would only want to do it going in the right direction -- west to east. And I
am far from convinced that the Mac26 is even close to being a "suitable
vessel" for such a crossing.

As a business concern, I am assuming you would want to put full coverage
insurance on the vessel to protect yourself against total loss. Know any
underwriters who will take that gamble on a Mac? Without at least 1 to 1
odds?

"Ed Gordon" wrote in message
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It's longer than I thought. How about this? Buy the Macs
on the US east
coast and then go to Australia via Cape Horn. That way it
would be
westerly winds the whole way. Just stay on the edge of the
roaring 40s
so it wouldn't be too rough and it would be a milk run the
whole way.
One could re-provision in South Africa. Going across the
Equator south
of the Windwards would be the only light wind area.


never heard of a shipping container, eh genius?

"Scotty" wrote in
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never heard of a shipping container, eh genius?



I saw a picture with a Mac26M inside a shipping container. It fit real
good. But it would probably cost ten or twenty grand to ship a Mac to
Australia. You could sail it there for probably 500 bucks worth of
groceries and drinks.


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Cheerio,
Ed Gordon
http://www.freewebs.com/egordon873/index.htm

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"Scotty" wrote in
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never heard of a shipping container, eh genius?



I saw a picture with a Mac26M inside a shipping container. It fit real
good. But it would probably cost ten or twenty grand to ship a Mac to
Australia. You could sail it there for probably 500 bucks worth of
groceries and drinks.

Well that's how they ship 'em - to NZ anyway. It's about five grand
BTW, IIRC.

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Duncan