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"Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Jeff" wrote in message Like many others, he suggests that perhaps the VT killings could have been prevented if students and teachers were permitted to carry guns. This is ignoring the fact that campuses are extremely safe, with a homicide rate that is a small fraction of the national average. (Last year there were perhaps 20 murders on campus, which collectively are the size of a major city.) Its hard to believe that arming a significant number of kids would make it safer. Much as it troubles me to agree with you g I have to do so in this case. Killings, with or without guns, are simply going to happen, on campus or off. All the well-meaning legislation to prevent such events will be as useful as attempting to milk a bull. But arming college kids, whose daily mentality and activities are strongly influenced by testosterone, alcohol, and drugs, would seem to be akin to pouring gasoline on the fire. Max You obviously have not attended college in Laramie! |
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"Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Mon, 7 May 2007 20:41:05 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: Err...Jon, that piece didn't say anything about the piece on gun crime. It was a simple hit-piece attacking Stoessel himself. Not a particularly good hit-piece at that. Reminded me of the FBI reports tagging X as an "associate of organized crime" because X once ate at Umberto's Clam House. Exactly my point... Stoessel is a right-wing stooge. IOW, rather than dealing with the message you'd prefer to attack the messenger. Why am I not surprised? Why would you be? Attacking the messenger is the common practice of the far left these days. Max Also consider that you are arguing with someone with the maturity level of a young teenager. |
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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message ... Also consider that you are arguing with someone with the maturity level of a young teenager. as opposed to an old teenager? |
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"Jeff" wrote in message
. .. * katy wrote, On 5/8/2007 1:54 PM: Nonsense. It might have been different if Stoessel had actually provided some evidence for his claims, but he didn't. A few anecdotes such as an old lady who showed a shotgun and scared off an alleged intruder is meaningless. Using Washington, DC as an example of anything is meaningless as it's a subway ride from VA which until recently was the "easy buy" capital of the East Coast. So what's wrong wrong with pointing out that a heavily biased commentator is simply spewing more of his unsupported silliness? The supporting documentation is in his book...that was specidfied at the beginning of the program.... I didn't watch the full program, though I did see some, and I watch the videos on abc.com. There is no mention of gun control or gun violence in either of Stossel's books. The recent book has a list of supporting research in the back - nothing there relates to gun control. It appears that gun control is an issue he's jumped on recently. Like many others, he suggests that perhaps the VT killings could have been prevented if students and teachers were permitted to carry guns. This is ignoring the fact that campuses are extremely safe, with a homicide rate that is a small fraction of the national average. (Last year there were perhaps 20 murders on campus, which collectively are the size of a major city.) Its hard to believe that arming a significant number of kids would make it safer. If nothing else, adding a million or so guns to the campuses couldn't possibly lower the suicide rate - there are over 1000 a year. Oddly, the suicide rate on campus is about half that in non-students of the same age group. Which I suppose is too bad, since that's where liberals are known to be.... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message crapola removed You aren't really expecting a response from Jon to this, are you? Max Max, please don't repost Neal's crap. He's just an angry guy, and it just makes his condition worse. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Mon, 7 May 2007 20:41:05 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: Err...Jon, that piece didn't say anything about the piece on gun crime. It was a simple hit-piece attacking Stoessel himself. Not a particularly good hit-piece at that. Reminded me of the FBI reports tagging X as an "associate of organized crime" because X once ate at Umberto's Clam House. Exactly my point... Stoessel is a right-wing stooge. IOW, rather than dealing with the message you'd prefer to attack the messenger. Why am I not surprised? There's nothing "deal with" as far as the message goes, because of the source. Why am I not surprised you don't get that. The same could be said about you. (left-wing stooge) But Dave and others have argued the gist of the messages with you, rather than just proclaiming you to be a left-wing stooge and dismissed therein. Your dismissal of Stossel is pointless and disingenuous. Max I don't think I can be categorized so simply. I rarely point to a left-wing apologist as a source of fact. Please feel free to repost an example if you can. I can easily dismiss him, because he has no rational argument. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Mon, 7 May 2007 20:41:05 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: Err...Jon, that piece didn't say anything about the piece on gun crime. It was a simple hit-piece attacking Stoessel himself. Not a particularly good hit-piece at that. Reminded me of the FBI reports tagging X as an "associate of organized crime" because X once ate at Umberto's Clam House. Exactly my point... Stoessel is a right-wing stooge. IOW, rather than dealing with the message you'd prefer to attack the messenger. Why am I not surprised? Why would you be? Attacking the messenger is the common practice of the far left these days. Max Compared to what the right-wing has done for the last 8 years (or more). Well, ok. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
... "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Mon, 7 May 2007 20:41:05 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: Err...Jon, that piece didn't say anything about the piece on gun crime. It was a simple hit-piece attacking Stoessel himself. Not a particularly good hit-piece at that. Reminded me of the FBI reports tagging X as an "associate of organized crime" because X once ate at Umberto's Clam House. Exactly my point... Stoessel is a right-wing stooge. IOW, rather than dealing with the message you'd prefer to attack the messenger. Why am I not surprised? Why would you be? Attacking the messenger is the common practice of the far left these days. Max Also consider that you are arguing with someone with the maturity level of a young teenager. Really... well, I'm sure you can back up your assertion. Go for it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Scotty" wrote in message
. .. "Bob Crantz" wrote in message ... Also consider that you are arguing with someone with the maturity level of a young teenager. as opposed to an old teenager? I always wanted to be 19 again... even when I was 12. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message ... "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Jeff" wrote in message Like many others, he suggests that perhaps the VT killings could have been prevented if students and teachers were permitted to carry guns. This is ignoring the fact that campuses are extremely safe, with a homicide rate that is a small fraction of the national average. (Last year there were perhaps 20 murders on campus, which collectively are the size of a major city.) Its hard to believe that arming a significant number of kids would make it safer. Much as it troubles me to agree with you g I have to do so in this case. Killings, with or without guns, are simply going to happen, on campus or off. All the well-meaning legislation to prevent such events will be as useful as attempting to milk a bull. But arming college kids, whose daily mentality and activities are strongly influenced by testosterone, alcohol, and drugs, would seem to be akin to pouring gasoline on the fire. Max You obviously have not attended college in Laramie! Oh, but I did, for one semester. I pledged ATO and lived in Wyo Hall for the duration. Then transferred to Indiana University. Changed majors to something Wyoming didn't have. Max |
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