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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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katy wrote:
Because it's our reffing country, that's why....if you want to play the
American way, tehn become an American....otherwise don't expect the
perks without the paying the price...

This country was founded and has prospered because of non-natives. I
guess being a legal alien since he was five doesn't count for much in
your book. Perhaps he should have been deported.

No one is implying that. Legal aliens have many rights in this country.
But should owning/possessing a gun be one of them? I doubt if the founding
fathers would have bought into that.

Max

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Maxprop wrote:

OzOne wrote in message
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Whoa?
What is it that puts a non citizen in a position where he is unable to
defend himself when you claim that right?

The US Constitution. It applies to citizens, not aliens.

Wrong. It applies to anyone under jurisdiction here.

The Constitution consistently refers to "the people," which all
Constitutional scholars agree was a term synonymous with "US citizens" as
intended by the founders.

Max

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Joe wrote:
They had guns in 1927. Point is the mass murder took place without
guns.

Keep at it. Maybe you should claim Hillary did it.

Why would I blame Hillary?
The only one to blame is the Seung-hui Cho. Thats something you
liberal seems to not understand, people are responsible for their own
actions.

Nope. Hillary is to blame. She a liberal QED she did it.

Typical liberal--blame everyone but the person at fault. g

Max

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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And, they have easy access to guns, especially handguns. If you remove
that easy access, then they might have a chance to get help before 33
people die needlessly. Why don't you tell us it's "in the
Constitution" again if it makes you feel better.

Easy access to handguns is an American fact of life--now and forever. Do

People thought the same thing about slavery...

Are you attempting to equate the abolition of slavery to gun control???
Would you be willing to plunge the country into years of civil war resulting
in the death of hundreds of thousands, the destruction of cities, a failed
economy, all in order to save a few dozen lives each year?

Max

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Maxprop wrote:
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article ,
katy wrote:

Because it's our reffing country, that's why....if you want to play the
American way, tehn become an American....otherwise don't expect the
perks without the paying the price...

This country was founded and has prospered because of non-natives. I
guess being a legal alien since he was five doesn't count for much in
your book. Perhaps he should have been deported.


No one is implying that. Legal aliens have many rights in this country.
But should owning/possessing a gun be one of them? I doubt if the founding
fathers would have bought into that.

Max


The ramifications of resident aliens being able to buy guns...the guns
can and do end up leaving the country...the guns end up in terrorist
hands....we've legalized a way for an enemy to infiltrate and destroy us
and our allies...we've opened up a vehicle for gun trafficking that is
based on a leagailty...

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In article ,
katy wrote:
Because it's our reffing country, that's why....if you want to play the
American way, tehn become an American....otherwise don't expect the
perks without the paying the price...


This country was founded and has prospered because of non-natives. I
guess being a legal alien since he was five doesn't count for much in
your book. Perhaps he should have been deported.


Not deported but the question rises as to why, at the age of 23, he had
not declred citzenship or the intent of taking citizenship. Most

Maybe because he had mental problems or maybe because at 23, having
been here since he was a baby, he really didn't see the urgency? Who
knows. It makes no difference at all

resident aliens can't wait for their 7 years to be up so they can become
a citizen. If you have no intention of becoming a citizen, then why have
permanent resident status unless you're a representative of a foreign
country? I am not speaking here about visas for people who come here
with a specific purpose for a specific time. They come and they go and
that's all right. I don't care if non-citizens go to our colleges and
universities as long as they take what they learned back to improve
their own nations. I do take issue with people that come here to drink
from our well and then spit in it when they're finished.

Who decides? You?
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Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article ,
katy wrote:
Because it's our reffing country, that's why....if you want to play the
American way, tehn become an American....otherwise don't expect the
perks without the paying the price...

This country was founded and has prospered because of non-natives. I
guess being a legal alien since he was five doesn't count for much in
your book. Perhaps he should have been deported.

No one is implying that. Legal aliens have many rights in this country.
But should owning/possessing a gun be one of them? I doubt if the founding
fathers would have bought into that.

How does one figure it out? In the case of a rifle, in a gun shop, you
don't need to prove your citizenship. Many gun shops don't even follow
the minimal regs that are on the books. I believe he just walked in,
plunked down a CC and away went 33 lives.
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In article ,
katy wrote:
The ramifications of resident aliens being able to buy guns...the guns
can and do end up leaving the country...the guns end up in terrorist
hands....we've legalized a way for an enemy to infiltrate and destroy us
and our allies...we've opened up a vehicle for gun trafficking that is
based on a leagailty...

That would be the least of our worries. The enemies are all around us,
batten down the hatches! Hurry!


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Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

OzOne wrote in message
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Whoa?
What is it that puts a non citizen in a position where he is unable to
defend himself when you claim that right?

The US Constitution. It applies to citizens, not aliens.

Wrong. It applies to anyone under jurisdiction here.

The Constitution consistently refers to "the people," which all
Constitutional scholars agree was a term synonymous with "US citizens" as
intended by the founders.

So, a legal resident, who is arrested is thrown in a gulag without the
rights afforded to a US citizen??? Sorry, but that's your fantasy.

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In article ,
katy wrote:
Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article ,
katy wrote:


I just read that...IMO , whether someone is a permanent resident or not,
non-citizens have no right to have a gun....that needs to be rectified...


Is that because you're discounting an entire people?


I'm discounting anyone who is not an American citizen...

Ah... like Tony Blair, Nelson Mandela, Ghandi, the Pope... those
people.

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