I've been thinking about what a rigger told me recently about cotter
pins. He made an interesting suggestion to replace the accessible
cotter pins (ones that don't sit right up against the turnbuckle faces
for example) with SS screws and nylon locknuts.

I did this on my backstay turnbuckle (will post a picture later on
today), and it seems like a pretty clean installation. I don't like
using tape, and these particular cotter pins seem to catch on whatever
comes near them (e.g., lines I hang on the pushpit while underway),
and I couldn't really get them to curl properly. So, I figures what
the heck. There don't appear to be any shearing issues, and I can
always keep cotter pins on hand if I need them I suppose.

Anyone try this? Comments?
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J Ganz said:
SS screws and nylon locknuts

Not sure that's so great an answer, they will have to be very skinny
to fit thru a cotter pin hole and very likely to have the threads
banged up. And the heads & nuts will need room to fit against the body
of the turnbuckle so it will be bulkier, likelier to trap salt water
in crevices too.

Dave wrote:
I assume you mean either machine screws or bolts.

yeah with Whitworth threads

Frankly I don't see what the problem is with cotter pins, if you have
the right tool for installing/removign them, they are very easy to
work. It's not so difficult even with just a pair of cheap needle-nose
pliers.

One thing to be wary of is re-using cotter pins. They tend to break
from being bent/straightened and fall out.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Dave wrote:
On 27 Mar 2007 14:49:40 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

SS screws and nylon locknuts

I assume you mean either machine screws or bolts.

Yes, machine screws... and not replacing the cotter pins near the
chainplates.

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wrote:
J Ganz said:
SS screws and nylon locknuts

Not sure that's so great an answer, they will have to be very skinny
to fit thru a cotter pin hole and very likely to have the threads
banged up. And the heads & nuts will need room to fit against the body
of the turnbuckle so it will be bulkier, likelier to trap salt water
in crevices too.

I tried one just for fun. The nuts don't touch the turnbuckles.

Dave wrote:
I assume you mean either machine screws or bolts.

yeah with Whitworth threads

Frankly I don't see what the problem is with cotter pins, if you have
the right tool for installing/removign them, they are very easy to
work. It's not so difficult even with just a pair of cheap needle-nose
pliers.

One thing to be wary of is re-using cotter pins. They tend to break
from being bent/straightened and fall out.

Yeah, I don't reuse them. They're cheap.

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Charlie Morgan wrote:

Have you tried cotter rings?

CWM

I don't like ring dings... they can work themselves lose and/or catch
on things too.

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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
I've been thinking about what a rigger told me recently about cotter
pins. He made an interesting suggestion to replace the accessible
cotter pins (ones that don't sit right up against the turnbuckle faces
for example) with SS screws and nylon locknuts.

I did this on my backstay turnbuckle (will post a picture later on
today), and it seems like a pretty clean installation. I don't like
using tape, and these particular cotter pins seem to catch on whatever
comes near them (e.g., lines I hang on the pushpit while underway),
and I couldn't really get them to curl properly. So, I figures what
the heck. There don't appear to be any shearing issues, and I can
always keep cotter pins on hand if I need them I suppose.

Anyone try this? Comments?

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wrote:
J Ganz said:
SS screws and nylon locknuts

Not sure that's so great an answer, they will have to be very skinny
to fit thru a cotter pin hole and very likely to have the threads
banged up. And the heads & nuts will need room to fit against the body
of the turnbuckle so it will be bulkier, likelier to trap salt water
in crevices too.

Dave wrote:
I assume you mean either machine screws or bolts.

yeah with Whitworth threads

No way! in America!?!?

I had a full set of Whitworth wrenches for my '57 old series 1
Leyland Landrover (with the venerable F-head engine)


Frankly I don't see what the problem is with cotter pins, if you have
the right tool for installing/removign them, they are very easy to
work. It's not so difficult even with just a pair of cheap needle-nose
pliers.

One thing to be wary of is re-using cotter pins. They tend to break
from being bent/straightened and fall out.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




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No one will know you did anything at all.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-nXT8lSnPQ

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One thing to be wary of is re-using cotter pins. They tend
to break
from being bent/straightened and fall out.


Right. Also, nylon locknuts should not be reused too often.

SBV

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In article ,
Charlie Morgan wrote:

Have you tried cotter rings?

CWM

I don't like ring dings... they can work themselves lose
and/or catch
on things too.

Not the good ones.

SBV

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One thing to be wary of is re-using cotter pins. They tend
to break
from being bent/straightened and fall out.


Right. Also, nylon locknuts should not be reused too often.

Well, that's for sure. I wouldn't reuse them at all.

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