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On Mar 18, 6:41 am, "Maxprop" wrote:
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Coming from someone who spends an hour maintaing his brightwork on a
C&C I would expect you are surrounded by lazy sailors. Un hanking
flaking, folding and bagging a jib and putting it in a dry sail locker
only takes a few minutes.

You'd be surprised at how few people take the time. Well, perhaps you
wouldn't. My impression is that if folks don't have roller furling, they
wish they did. And if they can't afford it, their boats also look to be
in
the poverty level. There are always exceptions, but that's the general
rule
around here. What I've seen more often is hanked-on headsails dropped to
the deck and shock-corded to a couple of lifeline stanchions--a really
lazy
approach that insures the sail's lifespan will be minimal.

Rollup head sails are for lazy sailors. They ruin the shape of the
sail, they have to have sunbrella sewed to the exposed edges, they get
stuck, ect..ect..ect

How do they ruin the shape of the sail?

A sail is not flat, to maintain it's proper shape it can not be
rolled up.

I'm aware it's not flat. It has draft, but there is no strain on the
sailcloth if rolled properly. If anything it might bunch up a bit, but
that's no worse than stuffing it into a bad, and probably better for the
sail. Question: if it's wrong to roll a sail with draft, why then do the
manufacturers of high-tech headsails and mains recommend rolling, rather
than folding, them?


Just how high can you reach with your sail tie? I
I've seen many shredded to peices that had "A" sail tie, in high
winds.

On my boat the genoa sheets wrap around the sail at the level of the
clew,
which is about twelve feet above the deck. I place a single sail tie
about
three or four feet below that. I have to stand on the bow pulpit to do
it,
however.

Only a lubber would think leaving your sails out in the weather, and
putting a tie around is better then properly storing them in a sail
locker.

Then nearly 90% of sailors are lubbers,

Thats about right, it thought it was closer to 98% who are lubbers.

Ah, I see you're like Capt. Neal, who believes the whole world is out of
step and he's the only one in step.


because that's the industry estimate
of the number of sailing vessels equipped with roller furling. And some
form of main furling is also increasing, now at about 15% and rising.

What only 15% are total idiots?

Those "total idiots" probably sail more than you, have cleaner, better
cared-for sails than you, and enjoy their sailing more than you do.

Max

On Mar 18, 7:42 pm, "Maxprop" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

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On Mar 18, 6:41 am, "Maxprop" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

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Coming from someone who spends an hour maintaing his brightwork on a
C&C I would expect you are surrounded by lazy sailors. Un hanking
flaking, folding and bagging a jib and putting it in a dry sail locker
only takes a few minutes.

You'd be surprised at how few people take the time. Well, perhaps you
wouldn't. My impression is that if folks don't have roller furling, they
wish they did. And if they can't afford it, their boats also look to be
in
the poverty level. There are always exceptions, but that's the general
rule
around here. What I've seen more often is hanked-on headsails dropped to
the deck and shock-corded to a couple of lifeline stanchions--a really
lazy
approach that insures the sail's lifespan will be minimal.

Rollup head sails are for lazy sailors. They ruin the shape of the
sail, they have to have sunbrella sewed to the exposed edges, they get
stuck, ect..ect..ect

How do they ruin the shape of the sail?

A sail is not flat, to maintain it's proper shape it can not be
rolled up.

I'm aware it's not flat. It has draft, but there is no strain on the
sailcloth if rolled properly. If anything it might bunch up a bit, but
that's no worse than stuffing it into a bad, and probably better for the
sail. Question: if it's wrong to roll a sail with draft, why then do the
manufacturers of high-tech headsails and mains recommend rolling, rather
than folding, them?





Just how high can you reach with your sail tie? I
I've seen many shredded to peices that had "A" sail tie, in high
winds.

On my boat the genoa sheets wrap around the sail at the level of the
clew,
which is about twelve feet above the deck. I place a single sail tie
about
three or four feet below that. I have to stand on the bow pulpit to do
it,
however.

Only a lubber would think leaving your sails out in the weather, and
putting a tie around is better then properly storing them in a sail
locker.

Then nearly 90% of sailors are lubbers,

Thats about right, it thought it was closer to 98% who are lubbers.

Ah, I see you're like Capt. Neal, who believes the whole world is out of
step and he's the only one in step.

Not at all. I just know 98% of sailors are weekend warriors and do not
have a clue about the sea or seamanship.

because that's the industry estimate
of the number of sailing vessels equipped with roller furling. And some
form of main furling is also increasing, now at about 15% and rising.

What only 15% are total idiots?

Those "total idiots" probably sail more than you, have cleaner, better
cared-for sails than you, and enjoy their sailing more than you do.

I doubt it. Unless if you mean Sail more , as in sailing like Bobspirt
then you are correct. RedCloud is not a very good day sailor, but I
have a dink for that type of sailing.

RedCloud has custom made sail packs for the main and mizzen, the
forward sails are in the locker in the bags, never put away salty or
wet. With and inner and outer forestays I have no problem shorting or
adding sail myself.

I'd just rather have simple and reliable, little extra work will keep
you fit. I guess if I had a lightweight nimble boat and were afraid to
go forward in a blow it might make since.

Joe

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