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Capt. JG wrote:

Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g., http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I
see a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid
dock line and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially
since they apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?


We had them but took the snubber part off since they were annoying..and
left b;lack marks on the gelcoat...would probably make more sense to use
them here where we have tides than it did in Michigan...but then, maybe
not since our boat seemed to catch the wake of the getch of the lake and
they did hjelp with that...for the most part, though, we weren't
impressed...


You aren't supposed to have them close enough to the boat to contact the
gelcoat.

Wasn't talking about in use...was talking about when throwing thewm on the
boat when you untie...

We leave our docklines on the dock. Then it's just a matter of "hooking up"
when returning. Everything is in place and the boat is situated properly in
the slip. I know some people take their lines with them each time, but they
also spend half an hour getting everything resituated upon returning. As
for lines with snubbers, we don't take those when we cruise--we stow them in
the dock box. We only take lines without snubbers.


I'm surprised you guys could exist on the south side of A-dock
without 'em. We'd never have slept on Mystique without snubbers. And do
you recall the 100mph winds on Memorial Day weekend some years ago?

The storm wher eyour mast was in my cockpit? I remember it vividly...
I had
two dock lines on the leeward quarter that both parted during that storm.
The boat next to me had only one line and it didn't part, thanks to a
snubber. I became a believer after that night.

Yup. Memorial Day, can't recall the year. But we got a lesson about
docklines that night. Also got a lesson about securing genoa sheets and
tying a keeper line around the rolled genny.


We did have them...they helped some but not to any great degree...I'm
wondering though if it has something to do with the weight of the
boat...they had no effect on Chanteuse that I could see..seeing thast
she's like a little cork because she's so light, maybe that's why? We've
never snapped a line...but we do use heavier than recommended for size
line and back then double tied and crsoostied and triple tied,. etc....I
love sitting in the still waters now...boat never does anything but go up
and down...

Now that we're on the north side of A-dock we have no problems. Marv still
puts 25 docklines on his Catalina 42, but that's just Marv. He could get by
with four 3/4" lines on the corners and a spring or two.

Max

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Yup. Memorial Day, can't recall the year. But we got a lesson about
docklines that night. Also got a lesson about securing genoa sheets and
tying a keeper line around the rolled genny.


I don't put a line around the rolled jib, but I do use a keeper line through
one of the holes on the drum to the pulpit.

http://www.sailnow.photosite.com/Exc...SCN0022_3.html

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On Mar 15, 6:44 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g.,http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I see
a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid dock line
and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially since they
apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?

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"j" ganz

Never used one yet. But I'm not to worried about yanking my cleats
off.
Save your money, just use 3 strand nylon it has plenty of spring.
Snubbers for dock lines are for West Marine, and boatsUS fools.
AKA Bubbles & BB.

Joe

On Mar 15, 10:17 pm, "Joe" wrote:
On Mar 15, 6:44 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:

Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g.,http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I see
a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid dock line
and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially since they
apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?

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"j" ganz

Never used one yet. But I'm not to worried about yanking my cleats
off.
Save your money, just use 3 strand nylon it has plenty of spring.
Snubbers for dock lines are for West Marine, and boatsUS fools.
AKA Bubbles & BB.

Joe

PS.. Splice in a thimble for the shackle.

Joe

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On Mar 15, 10:17 pm, "Joe" wrote:
On Mar 15, 6:44 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:

Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g.,http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I
see
a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid dock
line
and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially since they
apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?

--
"j" ganz

Never used one yet. But I'm not to worried about yanking my cleats
off.
Save your money, just use 3 strand nylon it has plenty of spring.
Snubbers for dock lines are for West Marine, and boatsUS fools.
AKA Bubbles & BB.

Joe

PS.. Splice in a thimble for the shackle.

Joe



Yeah, I need to do that for my own lines. I'm still using the ones that were
there when I brought the boat up.

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On Mar 15, 6:44 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g.,http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I
see
a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid dock
line
and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially since they
apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?

--
"j" ganz

Never used one yet. But I'm not to worried about yanking my cleats
off.
Save your money, just use 3 strand nylon it has plenty of spring.
Snubbers for dock lines are for West Marine, and boatsUS fools.
AKA Bubbles & BB.

You've obviously never been in a situation where the boat is rolling
violently at the dock. Snubbers will keep your lines from parting, not to
mention allowing you to get some sleep at night. When a boat without
snubbers snaps the dockline taut, it tends to roll the occupants of the
v-berth over.

Max

On Mar 15, 11:40 pm, "Maxprop" wrote:
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On Mar 15, 6:44 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g.,http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I
see
a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid dock
line
and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially since they
apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?

--
"j" ganz

Never used one yet. But I'm not to worried about yanking my cleats
off.
Save your money, just use 3 strand nylon it has plenty of spring.
Snubbers for dock lines are for West Marine, and boatsUS fools.
AKA Bubbles & BB.

You've obviously never been in a situation where the boat is rolling
violently at the dock. Snubbers will keep your lines from parting, not to
mention allowing you to get some sleep at night. When a boat without
snubbers snaps the dockline taut, it tends to roll the occupants of the
v-berth over.

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Odviously. Who would dock at a place that tosses you out of your bunk?

Joe

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On Mar 15, 6:44 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g.,http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but
I
see
a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid
dock
line
and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially since
they
apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?

--
"j" ganz

Never used one yet. But I'm not to worried about yanking my cleats
off.
Save your money, just use 3 strand nylon it has plenty of spring.
Snubbers for dock lines are for West Marine, and boatsUS fools.
AKA Bubbles & BB.

You've obviously never been in a situation where the boat is rolling
violently at the dock. Snubbers will keep your lines from parting, not
to
mention allowing you to get some sleep at night. When a boat without
snubbers snaps the dockline taut, it tends to roll the occupants of the
v-berth over.

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Odviously. Who would dock at a place that tosses you out of your bunk?

The adventurous type?

Max

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g., http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I
see a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid
dock line and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially
since they apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?

They are an absolute necessity where we are. Fortunately I'm now on the
leeward side of the floating dock from the prevailing winds and seaway.
When a storm kicks up out of the southwest, the long fetch down our lake can
produce some mighty big waves which cause boats on the leeward side of the
dock to roll violently and snap their leeward dock lines violently as well.
Without snubbers, even oversized lines would part in short order, or cleats
would be damaged or pull out of the boats. The snubbers on my leeward lines
has kept them solid and sound for years, and the snubbers I've been using
are at least a decade old. It only takes an annual wipedown with Formula
303 to preserve them nicely. They are very cheap insurance against disaster
where we are.

Max

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g., http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I
see a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid
dock line and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially
since they apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?

They are an absolute necessity where we are. Fortunately I'm now on the
leeward side of the floating dock from the prevailing winds and seaway.
When a storm kicks up out of the southwest, the long fetch down our lake
can produce some mighty big waves which cause boats on the leeward side of
the dock to roll violently and snap their leeward dock lines violently as
well. Without snubbers, even oversized lines would part in short order, or
cleats would be damaged or pull out of the boats. The snubbers on my
leeward lines has kept them solid and sound for years, and the snubbers
I've been using are at least a decade old. It only takes an annual
wipedown with Formula 303 to preserve them nicely. They are very cheap
insurance against disaster where we are.

Max

I'm in a single berth... barely enough for the 10 foot beam of the boat.

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