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Yup. Memorial Day, can't recall the year. But we got a
lesson about
docklines that night. Also got a lesson about securing
genoa sheets and
tying a keeper line around the rolled genny.


I don't put a line around the rolled jib,



you should.




Why? What's wrong with the method I described in the secton you deleted?

I don't put a line around the rolled jib, but I do use a keeper line
through
one of the holes on the drum to the pulpit.


Do you take about two or three wraps of the sheets around the genny when
you roll it up? If you're one of those who leaves the clew sticking out
behind the genoa, you should rethink that. You should also pull the
sheets taut around the winches and cleat them--not just in the
self-tailing part of the winch, but a couple of flemishes on a cleat.



I generally put a couple of turns around the jib. I don't pull the sheets
taut around the winches. I just cleat them. I don't think it's good to
have strain on the winches if it's not needed.


Not strain really, but just tension. IF your sheets are slack, the wind can
unwind the turns on your genoa in short order.

Do you clean and repack your winches regularly? That's more important than
leaving them under tension.

Max


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Yup. Memorial Day, can't recall the year. But we got a
lesson about
docklines that night. Also got a lesson about securing
genoa sheets and
tying a keeper line around the rolled genny.


I don't put a line around the rolled jib,



you should.




Why? What's wrong with the method I described in the secton you
deleted?

I don't put a line around the rolled jib, but I do use a keeper line
through
one of the holes on the drum to the pulpit.

Do you take about two or three wraps of the sheets around the genny when
you roll it up? If you're one of those who leaves the clew sticking out
behind the genoa, you should rethink that. You should also pull the
sheets taut around the winches and cleat them--not just in the
self-tailing part of the winch, but a couple of flemishes on a cleat.



I generally put a couple of turns around the jib. I don't pull the sheets
taut around the winches. I just cleat them. I don't think it's good to
have strain on the winches if it's not needed.


Not strain really, but just tension. IF your sheets are slack, the wind
can unwind the turns on your genoa in short order.

Do you clean and repack your winches regularly? That's more important
than leaving them under tension.

Max


Haven't had to yet... I've only owned the boat a short time and the previous
owner did that relatively recently.

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Yup. Memorial Day, can't recall the year. But we got a
lesson about
docklines that night. Also got a lesson about securing
genoa sheets and
tying a keeper line around the rolled genny.


I don't put a line around the rolled jib,



you should.




Why? What's wrong with the method I described in the secton you
deleted?

I don't put a line around the rolled jib, but I do use a keeper line
through
one of the holes on the drum to the pulpit.

Do you take about two or three wraps of the sheets around the genny
when you roll it up? If you're one of those who leaves the clew
sticking out behind the genoa, you should rethink that. You should
also pull the sheets taut around the winches and cleat them--not just
in the self-tailing part of the winch, but a couple of flemishes on a
cleat.


I generally put a couple of turns around the jib. I don't pull the
sheets taut around the winches. I just cleat them. I don't think it's
good to have strain on the winches if it's not needed.


Not strain really, but just tension. IF your sheets are slack, the wind
can unwind the turns on your genoa in short order.

Do you clean and repack your winches regularly? That's more important
than leaving them under tension.

Max


Haven't had to yet... I've only owned the boat a short time and the
previous owner did that relatively recently.


I make it a habit of repacking the winches on every boat I buy. I assume
the previous owner, despite claiming to have done it recently, never did it
at all, or used a type of grease that's incompatible with a winch's
requirements. My current boat's winches were fine--the owner had done it
correctly just before I bought the boat, but it got done again anyway. I
repack them every three years, but we're in fresh water. I'd do them
annually if in the salt, or at least every other year if in brackish.

Max


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Yup. Memorial Day, can't recall the year. But we got a
lesson about
docklines that night. Also got a lesson about securing
genoa sheets and
tying a keeper line around the rolled genny.


I don't put a line around the rolled jib,



you should.




Why? What's wrong with the method I described in the secton you
deleted?

I don't put a line around the rolled jib, but I do use a keeper line
through
one of the holes on the drum to the pulpit.

Do you take about two or three wraps of the sheets around the genny
when you roll it up? If you're one of those who leaves the clew
sticking out behind the genoa, you should rethink that. You should
also pull the sheets taut around the winches and cleat them--not just
in the self-tailing part of the winch, but a couple of flemishes on a
cleat.


I generally put a couple of turns around the jib. I don't pull the
sheets taut around the winches. I just cleat them. I don't think it's
good to have strain on the winches if it's not needed.

Not strain really, but just tension. IF your sheets are slack, the wind
can unwind the turns on your genoa in short order.

Do you clean and repack your winches regularly? That's more important
than leaving them under tension.

Max


Haven't had to yet... I've only owned the boat a short time and the
previous owner did that relatively recently.


I make it a habit of repacking the winches on every boat I buy. I assume
the previous owner, despite claiming to have done it recently, never did
it at all, or used a type of grease that's incompatible with a winch's
requirements. My current boat's winches were fine--the owner had done it
correctly just before I bought the boat, but it got done again anyway. I
repack them every three years, but we're in fresh water. I'd do them
annually if in the salt, or at least every other year if in brackish.

Max



Normally, I would agree with you, but the previous owner was obsessive about
stuff like this.


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Yup. Memorial Day, can't recall the year. But we got a
lesson about
docklines that night. Also got a lesson about securing
genoa sheets and
tying a keeper line around the rolled genny.


I don't put a line around the rolled jib,



you should.




Why? What's wrong with the method I described in the secton you
deleted?

I don't put a line around the rolled jib, but I do use a keeper line
through
one of the holes on the drum to the pulpit.

Do you take about two or three wraps of the sheets around the genny
when you roll it up? If you're one of those who leaves the clew
sticking out behind the genoa, you should rethink that. You should
also pull the sheets taut around the winches and cleat them--not just
in the self-tailing part of the winch, but a couple of flemishes on a
cleat.


I generally put a couple of turns around the jib. I don't pull the
sheets taut around the winches. I just cleat them. I don't think it's
good to have strain on the winches if it's not needed.

Not strain really, but just tension. IF your sheets are slack, the
wind can unwind the turns on your genoa in short order.

Do you clean and repack your winches regularly? That's more important
than leaving them under tension.

Max

Haven't had to yet... I've only owned the boat a short time and the
previous owner did that relatively recently.


I make it a habit of repacking the winches on every boat I buy. I assume
the previous owner, despite claiming to have done it recently, never did
it at all, or used a type of grease that's incompatible with a winch's
requirements. My current boat's winches were fine--the owner had done it
correctly just before I bought the boat, but it got done again anyway. I
repack them every three years, but we're in fresh water. I'd do them
annually if in the salt, or at least every other year if in brackish.

Max



Normally, I would agree with you, but the previous owner was obsessive
about stuff like this.


SF Bay is brackish. I'd be inclined to repack them next year at least. Is
your boat slip in Richardson Bay?

Max




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Yup. Memorial Day, can't recall the year. But we got a
lesson about
docklines that night. Also got a lesson about securing
genoa sheets and
tying a keeper line around the rolled genny.


I don't put a line around the rolled jib,



you should.




Why? What's wrong with the method I described in the secton you
deleted?

I don't put a line around the rolled jib, but I do use a keeper
line through
one of the holes on the drum to the pulpit.

Do you take about two or three wraps of the sheets around the genny
when you roll it up? If you're one of those who leaves the clew
sticking out behind the genoa, you should rethink that. You should
also pull the sheets taut around the winches and cleat them--not
just in the self-tailing part of the winch, but a couple of
flemishes on a cleat.


I generally put a couple of turns around the jib. I don't pull the
sheets taut around the winches. I just cleat them. I don't think it's
good to have strain on the winches if it's not needed.

Not strain really, but just tension. IF your sheets are slack, the
wind can unwind the turns on your genoa in short order.

Do you clean and repack your winches regularly? That's more important
than leaving them under tension.

Max

Haven't had to yet... I've only owned the boat a short time and the
previous owner did that relatively recently.

I make it a habit of repacking the winches on every boat I buy. I
assume the previous owner, despite claiming to have done it recently,
never did it at all, or used a type of grease that's incompatible with a
winch's requirements. My current boat's winches were fine--the owner
had done it correctly just before I bought the boat, but it got done
again anyway. I repack them every three years, but we're in fresh
water. I'd do them annually if in the salt, or at least every other
year if in brackish.

Max



Normally, I would agree with you, but the previous owner was obsessive
about stuff like this.


SF Bay is brackish. I'd be inclined to repack them next year at least.
Is your boat slip in Richardson Bay?



I'm at Pt. Richmond. Definitely next pre-season.

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