On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:09:02 -0500, Maxprop wrote
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Give us Ellen back, Neal. She was pleasant.

Thanks Max.

As a lurker of this particular news group and very
infrequent contributer... over the past couple of
years... I was wondering who the f*ck this mean
spirited "Wilbur Hubbard" was.

No one but Mr. Hubbard knows for sure, but it's a safe bet he's the original
Neal Warren of the past. Neal could be periodically mean-spirited, and
never defered from spouting ultra right-wing garbage. His last 'sock
puppet' was Ellen MacArthur. He carried that about as far as he could, with
no credibility of course, and moved on to a new identity more to his true
character, the irascible Wilbur Hubbard: idiot, asshole, jerk
extraordinaire. Be advised, however, that Hubbard will probably be here for
a while, as he seems to be the consumate cyber fisherman (troll), eliciting
responses from almost everyone. That is what fuels his type.

Since when is eliciting a response a bad thing. At least there is a
conversation ..good/bad.



During my monintoring I don't recall seeing his
"handle" before.

Sock puppets arise and disappear with uncanny regularity in this NG. Some
have presumed that there are only about 12 or so actual contributors to this
group--the flonkers notwithstanding--some of whom masquerade as anyone but
themselves. The ascerbic Charlie Morgan is a prime example--he has been
Binary Bill, MysTerry, and now CWM. Gilligan is another--I've lost track of
all his 'identities.' Recently he's been Ted Bell among others. I suspect
that someday he'll find it necessary to undergo intensive psychotherapy for
a multiple personality disorder, aka Sybil. g

I guess I still don't get what it matters who the id is. Puppets have better
communication skills than the regs. At least they are communicative past 1
sentence answers.


Right now... like Joe (Redclowd)... this site is
starting to become a waste of one's time.

AFAIK, Joe has always been Joe. As to the worth of the NG, you either play
or you don't. Don't expect a cogent discussion of sailing topics very
often, albeit they do occur from time to time.

I have been to sea for months at a time and I don't remember talking about
the boat or where we were or anything else constantly... Yo all are like
bunch of women.. All you want to talk about is the relationship...



Then again... I have finally learned some 67 years
later... that nothing stays the same.

But for me at least... it was fun for awhile. And
admittedly (at least IMHO) Bobsprit sure kept things
going. heh heh

Maybe because Boobsprit did not just whine about everything.. give it a try!



Bubbles (Robert Brody, aka Bobsprit) is probably the best fisherman ever,
and he's essentially done it under his real name. I believe he'll be back
once he gets his new home in order, the paint dries, and boredom once again
sets in. Hang in there.

Jeff



This place has been an ongoing BS session since I have been here. Thats why I
enjoy it. Toughen up! Bunch of pansies...

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass

"Mundo" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:09:02 -0500, Maxprop wrote

No one but Mr. Hubbard knows for sure, but it's a safe bet he's the
original
Neal Warren of the past. Neal could be periodically mean-spirited, and
never defered from spouting ultra right-wing garbage. His last 'sock
puppet' was Ellen MacArthur. He carried that about as far as he could,
with
no credibility of course, and moved on to a new identity more to his true
character, the irascible Wilbur Hubbard: idiot, asshole, jerk
extraordinaire. Be advised, however, that Hubbard will probably be here
for
a while, as he seems to be the consumate cyber fisherman (troll),
eliciting
responses from almost everyone. That is what fuels his type.

Since when is eliciting a response a bad thing. At least there is a
conversation ..good/bad.

Re-read my paragraph (above), Mundo. Did I say, or imply, that eliciting a
response is a bad thing?
Sock puppets arise and disappear with uncanny regularity in this NG.
Some
have presumed that there are only about 12 or so actual contributors to
this
group--the flonkers notwithstanding--some of whom masquerade as anyone
but
themselves. The ascerbic Charlie Morgan is a prime example--he has been
Binary Bill, MysTerry, and now CWM. Gilligan is another--I've lost track
of
all his 'identities.' Recently he's been Ted Bell among others. I
suspect
that someday he'll find it necessary to undergo intensive psychotherapy
for
a multiple personality disorder, aka Sybil. g

I guess I still don't get what it matters who the id is. Puppets have
better
communication skills than the regs. At least they are communicative past 1
sentence answers.

It matters only in how aggressively the regulars attempt to identify the
sock puppet. It's a game of sorts, and by no means a bad thing. Once again
you've erroneously assumed I've derided the sock puppet concept. Without
sock puppets, everyone would have to be polite--like you. (Hmm, that makes
no sense, does it?)

AFAIK, Joe has always been Joe. As to the worth of the NG, you either
play
or you don't. Don't expect a cogent discussion of sailing topics very
often, albeit they do occur from time to time.

I have been to sea for months at a time and I don't remember talking about
the boat or where we were or anything else constantly... Yo all are like
bunch of women.. All you want to talk about is the relationship...

Nay, nay, pedantic sir. This is more like a bar adjacent to a marina.
Regulars meet to discuss just about anything that crosses their minds.
Sometimes it's relationships, other times it's sailing (rarely), and
occasionally it's to vent frustrations at those targets most appropriate to
the cause.

But for me at least... it was fun for awhile. And
admittedly (at least IMHO) Bobsprit sure kept things
going. heh heh

Maybe because Boobsprit did not just whine about everything.. give it a
try!

He whined incessantly. Give me a break.

Bubbles (Robert Brody, aka Bobsprit) is probably the best fisherman ever,
and he's essentially done it under his real name. I believe he'll be
back
once he gets his new home in order, the paint dries, and boredom once
again
sets in. Hang in there.

This place has been an ongoing BS session since I have been here. Thats
why I
enjoy it. Toughen up! Bunch of pansies...

Your model for this NG would be about as interesting as watching two
octogenarians having sex--it would last about 15 seconds before experiencing
total exhaustion, and be boring beyond belief, not to mention repugnant.

If what happens here is not to your liking, change it. As it is, you sound
like a goddamned whiner. Buck up, bro, and join us, or kiss someone's ass
(not mine, thank you all the same) and take a hike over to one of those
'leather' NGs. g

Max

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:03:29 -0500, Maxprop wrote
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Your model for this NG would be about as interesting as watching two
octogenarians having sex--it would last about 15 seconds before experiencing
total exhaustion, and be boring beyond belief, not to mention repugnant.

Actually I have no model for this news group or any others. As far as
octogenarians having sex...... Ol" Thom....want to pipe in here?

My point, (as dull as it may be) is that with out the trolls there is nothing
left. I enjoy the devils advocate position taken by the few who care enough
to go to the trouble of setting up dummy accounts to wake our lazy atrophied
brains up. The conversation ultimately deteriorates to one line dribble and
half felt responses. The regs have become like old married couples, lacking
in the passion that once made them attractive. Maybe it is time for some
fresh blood (puppet or otherwise). I welcome a bit of hybrid vigor.. I think.

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass

"Mundo" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 16:03:29 -0500, Maxprop wrote
(in article . net):

Your model for this NG would be about as interesting as watching two
octogenarians having sex--it would last about 15 seconds before
experiencing
total exhaustion, and be boring beyond belief, not to mention repugnant.

Actually I have no model for this news group or any others. As far as
octogenarians having sex...... Ol" Thom....want to pipe in here?

My point, (as dull as it may be) is that with out the trolls there is
nothing
left. I enjoy the devils advocate position taken by the few who care
enough
to go to the trouble of setting up dummy accounts to wake our lazy
atrophied
brains up. The conversation ultimately deteriorates to one line dribble
and
half felt responses. The regs have become like old married couples,
lacking
in the passion that once made them attractive. Maybe it is time for some
fresh blood (puppet or otherwise). I welcome a bit of hybrid vigor.. I
think.

Then might I suggest you 'mate' with someone from another NG and your
'offspring' should fill the hybrid vigor bill nicely.

Actually I agree with you. This NG lacks much of the vinegar in which it
was once bathed. Bubbles did a pretty good job of stirring things up, and
his departure has left the regulars floundering about, attempting to get a
rise out of someone, anyone, but failing.

But I believe the chief problem was brought about by Neal and LP, who
invited the flonkers over to pollute this NG with crossposting and
thoughtless, pointless bull****. They blame Ganz and Katy for netkkkopping
them, but that's akin to attributing blame to the deceased for being an
asshole, forcing you to shoot him.

Time is running out for ASA. My prediction is that the regulars will be
gone in a year or so and few but the flonkers will remain, only because they
crosspost to this NG with uncanny oblivion.

Max

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:02:03 -0500, Maxprop wrote
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Time is running out for ASA. My prediction is that the regulars will be gone

in a year or so and few but the flonkers will remain, only because they
crosspost to this NG with uncanny oblivion.

As an evolutionist I have to disagree with you. This news group is evolving
constantly. Every time a new person joins/leaves, he/she changes the genes of
the group. I welcome the flonkers. Usenet is quickly becoming a thing of the
past. Most new users of computers have no idea this is out here. All that is
left out here is a few diehards and a bunch of tweekers and geeks. I looked
thru some of the news groups I used to belong to and they are empty...may as
well be gone. Nothing but porn site and religious postings. A vast
wastleand. ASA is just another village waiting for oblivion.

Until then I will dice with the flonkers, the regs, and the puppets....

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass

"Mundo" wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:02:03 -0500, Maxprop wrote
(in article . net):

Time is running out for ASA. My prediction is that the regulars will be
gone
in a year or so and few but the flonkers will remain, only because they
crosspost to this NG with uncanny oblivion.

As an evolutionist I have to disagree with you. This news group is
evolving
constantly. Every time a new person joins/leaves, he/she changes the genes
of
the group. I welcome the flonkers. Usenet is quickly becoming a thing of
the
past. Most new users of computers have no idea this is out here. All that
is
left out here is a few diehards and a bunch of tweekers and geeks. I
looked
thru some of the news groups I used to belong to and they are empty...may
as
well be gone. Nothing but porn site and religious postings. A vast
wastleand. ASA is just another village waiting for oblivion.

Rather sounds as if you're supporting my opinion. With what part of my
premise do you disagree?

Until then I will dice with the flonkers, the regs, and the puppets....

I've filtered all the flonkers, and continue to do so as they appear. What
is left is a smattering of a dozen or more regulars, and they seem to be
losing interest. Frankly I'm at the threshold of my boredom tolerance as
well. Over the past several months I've departed and checked back in from
time to time. Come Spring, when the boats splash, the regulars become less
and less active.

I stand by my premise that this NG will belong only to the flonkers, by
default, in a year or so. Oddly enough you seem to agree.

Max

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 11:48:26 -0500, Maxprop wrote
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"Mundo" wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:02:03 -0500, Maxprop wrote
(in article . net):

Time is running out for ASA. My prediction is that the regulars will be
gone
in a year or so and few but the flonkers will remain, only because they
crosspost to this NG with uncanny oblivion.

As an evolutionist I have to disagree with you. This news group is
evolving
constantly. Every time a new person joins/leaves, he/she changes the genes
of
the group. I welcome the flonkers. Usenet is quickly becoming a thing of
the
past. Most new users of computers have no idea this is out here. All that
is
left out here is a few diehards and a bunch of tweekers and geeks. I
looked
thru some of the news groups I used to belong to and they are empty...may
as
well be gone. Nothing but porn site and religious postings. A vast
wastleand. ASA is just another village waiting for oblivion.

Rather sounds as if you're supporting my opinion. With what part of my
premise do you disagree?

Until then I will dice with the flonkers, the regs, and the puppets....

I've filtered all the flonkers, and continue to do so as they appear. What
is left is a smattering of a dozen or more regulars, and they seem to be
losing interest. Frankly I'm at the threshold of my boredom tolerance as
well. Over the past several months I've departed and checked back in from
time to time. Come Spring, when the boats splash, the regulars become less
and less active.

I stand by my premise that this NG will belong only to the flonkers, by
default, in a year or so. Oddly enough you seem to agree.

Max



I agree. ASA is a winter sport. Another month and I will be sailing again.
My season is march-june and sept thru jan. To hot on the bay to enjoy sailing
in the summer. In fact sailing on the bay during the summer months is not
unlike communicating on asa. Lots of hot air and the flies are
unbearable......

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass

What's your position on cross posting?

Scotty

"Mundo" wrote in message

Until then I will dice with the flonkers, the regs, and
the puppets....

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:15:17 -0500, Scotty wrote
(in article ):

What's your position on cross posting?

Scotty

"Mundo" wrote in message

Until then I will dice with the flonkers, the regs, and
the puppets....

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass




My position is do unto others..... Get my drift.. (nautical term) What does
it really matter.. One big community. The alternative is a closed yahoo group
or something equally moderated. No one wants that.. or do they. Every time I
return the group is more watered down. I expect it will be gone like the
other sailing groups soon.
It is not that I am apathetic.... I just don't really care...lol
--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:15:17 -0500, Scotty wrote
(in article ):

What's your position on cross posting?

Scotty

"Mundo" wrote in message

Until then I will dice with the flonkers, the regs, and
the puppets....

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass




Hey..Scotty, Do you still know how to get a hold of me? Send me seahags email
and yours.

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass