Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Katy won't believe it. Neither will Max. They believe he just couldn't
have lied.


No..I believe that we do not know the whole story and that Pelosi's
dropping the whole thing is very telling. I believe that he has the right,
like every other American, to be proven innocent or guity and not tried on
the streets...I do not like GW Bush..I don't like the war...but I do stand
by the Constitution and its ability to do what it is supposed to do...and
that's the only way to say qualitatively or quantitatively that he lied.
Jon Ganz saying so doesn't cut it,because after all, all Jon Ganz is is
some computer geek on Usenet like the rest of us...so call your
representative and your Senator, get up a petition, and see what happens.
AThen we'll talk.



We should have a full investigation. Jon Ganz saying so goes along with the
huge number of other people, many of whom know a lot more than Jon Ganz,
that Bush lied.

There will be multiple investigations I'm certain.

Bring it on, then..but until that time..he is presumed innocent until
proven guilty...that's the law..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Mundo" wrote in message

Katy,
Even Bush has admitted he was wrong/ spin for lying. Maybe it is time to
get
on with the reality. I hate to be the one to break it to you. Is it 2008
yet?

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass



Katy won't believe it. Neither will Max. They believe he just couldn't
have lied.

Nice obfuscation, Jon and Mundo. Bush admitted to being misleading about
Rumsfeld's resignation, but not about the important issue--the WMDs. Big
difference.

Max

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
k.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message

You're a lawyer working on sexual harassment litigation I presume? I
doubt it. Are you saying that all the 1000s of businesses are wrong?

When did you become a spokesman for the thousands of businesses in the
country? My guess is that they are far more up-to-date on the subject
than thou.


When did you become a spokesman for moral purity? My guess is that you
aren't much involved in corporate life.

This is an asinine comment, Jon. I'm not making any value judgements--only
bringing you up to date with respect to recent court decisions. I wasn't
the judge in such decisions, and I've opined that the decisions were
probably wrong. But that doesn't alter the fact that they were made, nor
the fact that you're ignorant of them.


No kidding. Really?

Really. Do you have any idea what you're asking??



"In your opinion" In my opinion, he's a damn liar and should be
impeached. It's not going to happen, but it should.

Your hatred for Bush has distorted any attempt at reason, Jon.

My hatred of Bush is your fantasy.

Now I'm really getting worried about you. Heretofore you've shown some
degree of equanimity. Now you're just plain nuts. Re-read your comment
above, top paragraph.


Have a trial. Justice should prevail.

Right. How many millions of wasted dollars were spent on the Ken Starr
investigations of Clinton? Are you advocating that we bog the country down
and spend millions more for the purpose of excoriating someone for whom you
hold so much hatred? You're nuts.

Max

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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katy wrote:



So, which is it... should Clinton have been in civil court or criminal
court?


Civil for the sexual harrassment issues and criminal for the lying about
it...he perjured himself...that's criminal...

You'd press a criminal prosecution upon a President for such a small
thing? In the overall scheme of things the only thing that would be
accomplished would be to further harm the repution of the USA. Ask
yourself why Ford gave Nixon immunity.

It was a conceptual question, Marty. The Senate did the right thing in
failing to convict Clinton and avoiding converting what was a minor
scandal into a major governmental fiasco. Ford, as well, did the right
thing.

And, the right-wing nuts wasted $70 million dollars, but that's ok, because
Max can claim the Senate didn't find him not guilty.


Jon wants to see Bush impeached and imprisoned. Of course he doesn't have
the best interest of the country at heart.

That would be in the best interest of the country!


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Katy won't believe it. Neither will Max. They believe he just couldn't
have lied.


No..I believe that we do not know the whole story and that Pelosi's
dropping the whole thing is very telling. I believe that he has the
right, like every other American, to be proven innocent or guity and not
tried on the streets...I do not like GW Bush..I don't like the war...but
I do stand by the Constitution and its ability to do what it is supposed
to do...and that's the only way to say qualitatively or quantitatively
that he lied. Jon Ganz saying so doesn't cut it,because after all, all
Jon Ganz is is some computer geek on Usenet like the rest of us...so call
your representative and your Senator, get up a petition, and see what
happens. AThen we'll talk.



We should have a full investigation. Jon Ganz saying so goes along with
the huge number of other people, many of whom know a lot more than Jon
Ganz, that Bush lied.

There will be multiple investigations I'm certain.

Bring it on, then..but until that time..he is presumed innocent until
proven guilty...that's the law..


And, he's a liar. Don't forget that small fact.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Mundo" wrote in message

Katy,
Even Bush has admitted he was wrong/ spin for lying. Maybe it is time to
get
on with the reality. I hate to be the one to break it to you. Is it 2008
yet?

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass



Katy won't believe it. Neither will Max. They believe he just couldn't
have lied.

Nice obfuscation, Jon and Mundo. Bush admitted to being misleading about
Rumsfeld's resignation, but not about the important issue--the WMDs. Big
difference.

Max



You're right. He didn't admit lying. We might want to not take him at his
word, since he's a confessed liar.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message

So, which is it... should Clinton have been in civil court or criminal
court?

Criminal. He wasn't litigated for sexual harassment. He was tried for
lying to a federal grand jury. That's a crime.

Of course it isn't a crime in the eyes of Democrats, who believe that
provided the lie is just a little white one, about peccadilloes, it's
okay.

Max



Like Bush lying... got it.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
k.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
k.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message

You're a lawyer working on sexual harassment litigation I presume? I
doubt it. Are you saying that all the 1000s of businesses are wrong?

When did you become a spokesman for the thousands of businesses in the
country? My guess is that they are far more up-to-date on the subject
than thou.


When did you become a spokesman for moral purity? My guess is that you
aren't much involved in corporate life.

This is an asinine comment, Jon. I'm not making any value
judgements--only bringing you up to date with respect to recent court
decisions. I wasn't the judge in such decisions, and I've opined that the
decisions were probably wrong. But that doesn't alter the fact that they
were made, nor the fact that you're ignorant of them.

So, you're an attorney? I don't think so.

Now I'm really getting worried about you. Heretofore you've shown some
degree of equanimity. Now you're just plain nuts. Re-read your comment
above, top paragraph.

I dislike Bush quite a lot, but hate isn't the emotion.

Have a trial. Justice should prevail.

Right. How many millions of wasted dollars were spent on the Ken Starr
investigations of Clinton? Are you advocating that we bog the country
down and spend millions more for the purpose of excoriating someone for
whom you hold so much hatred? You're nuts.

Wasted was right. Do you think it would be a waste to try someone who
allegedly took us to war by lying about it?


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Mundo" wrote in message

Katy,
Even Bush has admitted he was wrong/ spin for lying. Maybe it is time
to get
on with the reality. I hate to be the one to break it to you. Is it
2008 yet?

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass



Katy won't believe it. Neither will Max. They believe he just couldn't
have lied.

Nice obfuscation, Jon and Mundo. Bush admitted to being misleading about
Rumsfeld's resignation, but not about the important issue--the WMDs. Big
difference.

Max



You're right. He didn't admit lying. We might want to not take him at his
word, since he's a confessed liar.

You are consumed with hatred for Bush. Tell me, why did you hate your
mother? Did you hate your father, too? Did you want to kill your father?
Did you ever kill one of your pets? A neighbor boy disappeared when you
were ten--did you kill him? Have you ever had thoughts of suicide?

Well, time's up. We'll have to continue this next week.

Max

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
k.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
k.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message

You're a lawyer working on sexual harassment litigation I presume? I
doubt it. Are you saying that all the 1000s of businesses are wrong?

When did you become a spokesman for the thousands of businesses in the
country? My guess is that they are far more up-to-date on the subject
than thou.


When did you become a spokesman for moral purity? My guess is that you
aren't much involved in corporate life.

This is an asinine comment, Jon. I'm not making any value
judgements--only bringing you up to date with respect to recent court
decisions. I wasn't the judge in such decisions, and I've opined that
the decisions were probably wrong. But that doesn't alter the fact that
they were made, nor the fact that you're ignorant of them.

So, you're an attorney? I don't think so.

I give up. Beam me up, Scotty. There's no sign of sentient life here.


Max