Martin Baxter wrote:
katy wrote:


Nope..it's not...

If we don't do something

soon, it will spiral out of control.

And then we, like the dinosaurs, will be no more except fossils in the
ground and the earth will keep spinning, the sun will keeo shining (for
a while) and the universe will go on until the next Big Bang...all
things end...accept that...we are not infite beings..


That may just be the strangest non-argument I've read, it basically says
that because the dinosaurs became extinct, it's perfectly fine for
mankind to hasten his extinction and we should do nothing to prevent it.
It amounts to propounding mass suicide.

Cheers
Marty

The earth has been happy without us in the past...why wouldn't she be
happy without us in the future? Mankind will survive only of it
deserves to survive...sometimes U don't think our survival in the
unicerse is a very umportant thing...

"katy" wrote in message
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Martin Baxter wrote:
katy wrote:


Nope..it's not...

If we don't do something

soon, it will spiral out of control.

And then we, like the dinosaurs, will be no more except fossils in the
ground and the earth will keep spinning, the sun will keeo shining (for
a while) and the universe will go on until the next Big Bang...all
things end...accept that...we are not infite beings..


That may just be the strangest non-argument I've read, it basically says
that because the dinosaurs became extinct, it's perfectly fine for
mankind to hasten his extinction and we should do nothing to prevent it.
It amounts to propounding mass suicide.

Cheers
Marty

The earth has been happy without us in the past...why wouldn't she be
happy without us in the future? Mankind will survive only of it deserves
to survive...sometimes U don't think our survival in the unicerse is a
very umportant thing...


Again, and for what I hope will be the final time... it's not a matter of
our survival. Some high percentage of humans will survive. This is about the
rest of the species and our relative comfort in a decent environment.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Martin Baxter wrote:

katy wrote:


Nope..it's not...

If we don't do something


soon, it will spiral out of control.

And then we, like the dinosaurs, will be no more except fossils in the
ground and the earth will keep spinning, the sun will keeo shining (for
a while) and the universe will go on until the next Big Bang...all
things end...accept that...we are not infite beings..


That may just be the strangest non-argument I've read, it basically says
that because the dinosaurs became extinct, it's perfectly fine for
mankind to hasten his extinction and we should do nothing to prevent it.
It amounts to propounding mass suicide.

Cheers
Marty

The earth has been happy without us in the past...why wouldn't she be
happy without us in the future? Mankind will survive only of it deserves
to survive...sometimes U don't think our survival in the unicerse is a
very umportant thing...



Again, and for what I hope will be the final time... it's not a matter of
our survival. Some high percentage of humans will survive. This is about the
rest of the species and our relative comfort in a decent environment.


There's the rub...you want a perfect little life with relative comfort
and no problems... won't happen...there will always be something,
whether it is your supposed global warming scenario or the historical
cyclical passing of time on the earth...besides, you're not going to
have much vomfort anyway when the fault goes and San Grancisco sinks
into the Bay....and I imagine your environment will suffer, too...why
don't you apply yourself to trying to stop the fault from going? Makes
as much sense as trying to stop a historical and cyclical environmental
event...

"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Martin Baxter wrote:

katy wrote:


Nope..it's not...

If we don't do something


soon, it will spiral out of control.

And then we, like the dinosaurs, will be no more except fossils in the
ground and the earth will keep spinning, the sun will keeo shining (for
a while) and the universe will go on until the next Big Bang...all
things end...accept that...we are not infite beings..


That may just be the strangest non-argument I've read, it basically says
that because the dinosaurs became extinct, it's perfectly fine for
mankind to hasten his extinction and we should do nothing to prevent it.
It amounts to propounding mass suicide.

Cheers
Marty

The earth has been happy without us in the past...why wouldn't she be
happy without us in the future? Mankind will survive only of it deserves
to survive...sometimes U don't think our survival in the unicerse is a
very umportant thing...



Again, and for what I hope will be the final time... it's not a matter of
our survival. Some high percentage of humans will survive. This is about
the rest of the species and our relative comfort in a decent environment.


There's the rub...you want a perfect little life with relative comfort and
no problems... won't happen...there will always be something, whether it
is your supposed global warming scenario or the historical cyclical
passing of time on the earth...besides, you're not going to have much
vomfort anyway when the fault goes and San Grancisco sinks into the
Bay....and I imagine your environment will suffer, too...why don't you
apply yourself to trying to stop the fault from going? Makes as much sense
as trying to stop a historical and cyclical environmental event...


Never said I want a perfect little life with relative comfort, although I
wouldn't mind and certainly hope to have the latter. Why won't it happen?
Seems pretty reasonable and doable, and I'm willing to forgo some of my
relative comfort for the greater good. I think that's reasonable also.

I don't live in SF nor nearby particularly. Not too worried about
earthquakes. If I'm on my boat, I'll try to ride out the tsunami.

And, once again, the historical cyclical cycle of warm and cold have nothing
whatever to do with the FACT of human significant contribution to the
impending global disaster. We have the ability to control ourselves with
respect to our global environment, and to mitigate the extreme volitility
that will be and is currently caused by our pollution. I think we should do
so.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com